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re: UPDATE 265 Class Liftboat capsizes . New survivor story. Page 77
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:56 am to hubertcumberdale
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:56 am to hubertcumberdale
What happened to the sticky?
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:06 am to TDTOM
Sometimes I think admin throw darts as part of the decision making process
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:22 am to GeauxTigers0107
I was never comfortable clipped in to the new baskets.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:31 am to Rawdawgs
What’s the weather conditions these are fit to operate in normal conditions? We can all agree it wouldn’t have been out there in the conditions it sank in, but hell it was only 1.5 hours from the pass at the time of sinking right? I have a hard time believing the conditions went from favorable to sinking in 1.5 hours.
Also, is the only area for crews in the tower portion on top of the actual ‘barge’? As in it’s not a traditional boat where the crew has normal access to inside the hull right? As in the hull part sticking out of the water likely isn’t accessible?
I understand the boat likely flipped and sunk almost instantly, but I also have a hard time believing in those conditions everyone on board wouldn’t have been in some sort of ‘preparedness’ state. Conditions were likely terrible for at least a few minutes with rough seas and winds before it actually flipped.
Also, is the only area for crews in the tower portion on top of the actual ‘barge’? As in it’s not a traditional boat where the crew has normal access to inside the hull right? As in the hull part sticking out of the water likely isn’t accessible?
I understand the boat likely flipped and sunk almost instantly, but I also have a hard time believing in those conditions everyone on board wouldn’t have been in some sort of ‘preparedness’ state. Conditions were likely terrible for at least a few minutes with rough seas and winds before it actually flipped.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:33 am to baldona
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conditions went from favorable to sinking in 1.5 hours.
It can change in 15 minutes
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:41 am to yellowfin
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It can change in 15 minutes
Not really. I’m not inexperienced in this. Again, people are saying these boats aren’t meant for rough seas. The conditions were never predicted to be “flat and glassy”. I get them going out if winds were predicted at 15-20mph and seas 2-4 ft or something.
But it seems the weather conditions even 2 hours before were looking worse then that?
Look I’m not looking to blame someone, I’m just curious why they were out there in the first place so close to the pass. It’s not like they were 1.5 hours from the pass headed in and almost made it. They were headed out.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 7:42 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:42 am to baldona
I've worked offshore for 12 years. Around 4 years ago, I was on a double derrick drill ship when we got into a bit of weather. 25 MPH winds, raining hard; and the wind shifted. The DP on board (Directional Position) decided to start to spin the boat to get into the head wind of the "new" winds, when a squall popped up on top of us. Winds went from 25 to almost 80 in a few seconds in an entirely new direction. The double derrick acted as a wind sail, and we took a nice 20 degree angle until we quickly corrected. Only a few more degrees and it could have turned south quickly.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:54 am to baldona
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Also, is the only area for crews in the tower portion on top of the actual ‘barge’? As in it’s not a traditional boat where the crew has normal access to inside the hull right? As in the hull part sticking out of the water likely isn’t accessible?
The hull is the engine room and ballast tanks. The first floor is the galley. Second floor is for 3rd party. The 3rd floor is for the boat crew. The wheelhouse is at the top.
Access to the hull is on the deck on the port and starboard side, next to the galley. They're almost all built the same way.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:55 am to baldona
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Not really. I’m not inexperienced in this.
Then shut up and learn.
It can turn in a matter of minutes.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:02 am to Meauxjeaux
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Then shut up and learn.
It can turn in a matter of minutes.
I was about to come and make this exact post.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:03 am to Meauxjeaux
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Meauxjeaux
You might want to learn some reading comprehension.
ETA: To be fair he should have just wrote "experienced" vs "not inexperienced."
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 8:05 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:09 am to absolute692
Facebook Link to video of weather that day
From a fishing boat. Guy talking is overstating it a little, but it still looks very serious. A wave crashes over the bow of his boat. I can see how they could have easily capsized if they made a wrong move. And those shrimping boats have outriggers and are probably much easier to handle in severe weather than those lift boats.
From a fishing boat. Guy talking is overstating it a little, but it still looks very serious. A wave crashes over the bow of his boat. I can see how they could have easily capsized if they made a wrong move. And those shrimping boats have outriggers and are probably much easier to handle in severe weather than those lift boats.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 8:14 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:10 am to GeauxTigers0107
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The old collapsible style baskets got more people hurt than anything
Back in the late 80's,I nearly got my back broken in one of these when the crane operator miss judged a big wave and slammed me onto the deck of the work boat, I fell and got my foot stuck in the webbing.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 8:11 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:18 am to saintsfan1977
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The hull is the engine room and ballast tanks. The first floor is the galley. Second floor is for 3rd party. The 3rd floor is for the boat crew. The wheelhouse is at the top
Correct, the only way to access the hull is though man covers on the deck. I worked on a couple boats where the engine room could be accessed through the cab and a passage on the deck in back of the cab. That was on the Jill and Robert.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 8:19 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:33 am to CHEDBALLZ
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That was on the Jill and Robert.
I've definitely been on Jill numerous times. I've probably been on the Robert but I've been on so many it's hard to keep track unless it was one I worked on for awhile or quite a few times.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:41 am to member12
Damn that video is intense. Every bit of 10 footers and 75MPH winds.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:48 am to redfish99
Divers on scene this morning. Weather still hairy. Continue praying for these guys & their families!
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:53 am to tigerfanatic61
Between this & the LSU student found yesterday there are so many families hurting right now
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:56 am to baldona
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It can change in 15 minutes
Not really
Explain.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 8:58 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:08 am to saintsfan1977
I did all the legs aerial leg splices on the Robert and Jill except 2. That was the last thing I did as an iron worker till I was moved into the office.
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