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re: UPDATE 265 Class Liftboat capsizes . New survivor story. Page 77
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:09 am to LNCHBOX
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:09 am to LNCHBOX
I worked a job that had me on the water a lot in south Louisiana. I remember one storm coming up on us real quick and we got absolutely rocked for a bit. I was thrown at one point - water hit me like a wall. Ended up in the deck not knowing what happened - knocked my hat classes off. Captain had a good laugh at me.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:10 am to LNCHBOX
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Not really
Explain.
Guys are trying to explain people may have been sleeping in bunks and then the ship flip and sink out of no where.
I’m saying that’s BS. You don’t go from 2-3s and guys sleeping to a flipped ship. The captain should have had the guys on high alert at least a couple minutes before this happened. Maybe he did, hell he probably did, and there was nothing they could do still as that thing flipping would be a catastrophe to recover from.
I’m just explaining that there’s no way I’m on that boat and not puckered up. This type of boat as explained multiple times was not built for driving in storms like a coast guard cutter for example. If the weather turns to shite you get all on board ready for an emergency.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:11 am to CHEDBALLZ
We had a heck of a thunderstorm come through here at about 4 am today -- I couldn't go back to sleeping thinking about the guys who might still be holding on out there but the radar didn't look like it was raining there. Waves still bad I'm sure.
This was posted on the KLFY (Lafayette news) page ... four missing from Acadiana. The second guy pictured looks like he's 70 ... and the others looked like they had a whole future in front of them.
God bless their families and friends.
KLFY link
This was posted on the KLFY (Lafayette news) page ... four missing from Acadiana. The second guy pictured looks like he's 70 ... and the others looked like they had a whole future in front of them.
God bless their families and friends.
KLFY link
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:12 am to baldona
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I’m just explaining that there’s no way I’m on that boat and not puckered up.
Pretty easy to say from the comfort of wherever you're sitting currently.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:14 am to LNCHBOX
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Pretty easy to say from the comfort of wherever you're sitting currently.
Lol. Ok. As I said, I’m not inexperienced working off shore. I never worked in O&G but I’ve spent time working on a charter boat. I’m well aware shite happens fast and a decent day turns to shite fast.
But again, a well trained crew doesn’t get completely sucker punched. It may come at you out of control, but you know you are about to be in a fight before it does.
ETA: I’m not trying to argue that the crew screwed up. I’m simply saying I have a hard time believing the full crew on board wasn’t doing everything possible to prepare for this and there wasn’t just a skeleton crew in the wheelhouse that got sucker punched.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 9:17 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:18 am to LNCHBOX
Oh and apparently a couple of men are in the engine room of this thing?? According to the LP Scanner fb page.
" I only know that we were told by the one survivor they got yesterday was my fiancé and my friends husband. We seen some video of the rig and you could see more than 3 people. I pray he is with them for your sake"
" I only know that we were told by the one survivor they got yesterday was my fiancé and my friends husband. We seen some video of the rig and you could see more than 3 people. I pray he is with them for your sake"
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:20 am to baldona
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I’m saying that’s BS. You don’t go from 2-3s and guys sleeping to a flipped ship. The captain should have had the guys on high alert at least a couple minutes before this happened. Maybe he did, hell he probably did, and there was nothing they could do still as that thing flipping would be a catastrophe to recover from.
I’m just explaining that there’s no way I’m on that boat and not puckered up. This type of boat as explained multiple times was not built for driving in storms like a coast guard cutter for example. If the weather turns to shite you get all on board ready for an emergency
Have you ever been offshore? I've rode liftboats in 8ft seas plenty of times. The captain probably didn't think his boat was going to flip over until it was too late. Those guys have rode through rough water plenty of times.
You ever ride a crew boat in 10ft seas and you're bouncing off the floor or the seats? When do you declare its an emergency? because I've only been in one scenario where it was and CG definitely wasn't coming for us if the shite hit the fan. And I've been through numerous storms out there in some shite conditions. It's not up to me to declare the boat unseaworthy.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:21 am to saintsfan1977
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Have you ever been offshore? I've rode liftboats in 8ft seas plenty of times. The captain probably didn't think his boat was going to flip over until it was too late. Those guys have rode through rough water plenty of times.
You ever ride a crew boat in 10ft seas and you're bouncing off the floor or the seats? When do you declare its an emergency? because I've only been in one scenario where it was and CG definitely wasn't coming for us if the shite hit the fan. And I've been through numerous storms out there in some shite conditions. It's not up to me to declare the boat unseaworthy.
He's not inexperienced, just listen to him
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:24 am to LNCHBOX
He was a deckhand on a charter boat. He knows all.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:28 am to TDTOM
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He was a deckhand on a charter boat. He knows all.
I just noticed he wasn't experienced.
Nah the only deck he's seen is the one around his above ground pool
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:28 am to baldona
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Guys are trying to explain people may have been sleeping in bunks and then the ship flip and sink out of no where.
I’m saying that’s BS. You don’t go from 2-3s and guys sleeping to a flipped ship. The captain should have had the guys on high alert at least a couple minutes before this happened. Maybe he did, hell he probably did, and there was nothing they could do still as that thing flipping would be a catastrophe to recover from.
If the capt didnt sound the general alarm how would the guys off watch sleeping know that shite was going down?
If a wave came over the bow and the bow dove or caught an edge the entire vessel could have listed and rolled in a matter of seconds and the capt being at the top in the wheel house could have been thrown across the room and not had a chance to sound the alarm. shite happens fast when you're in that kind of environment.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:31 am to baldona
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But again, a well trained crew doesn’t get completely sucker punched. It may come at you out of control, but you know you are about to be in a fight before it does.
ETA: I’m not trying to argue that the crew screwed up.
Do you have any idea what the boat crew make up is on a lift boat like that...
Not counting the 7 guys on the coil tubing crew...the boat isnt their responsibility.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:33 am to saintsfan1977
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Have you ever been offshore?
He worked on a charter boat out of Orange Beach baiting hooks and bottom fishing for Red Snapper
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:33 am to tgrbaitn08
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If the capt didnt sound the general alarm how would the guys off watch sleeping know that shite was going down?
They were 3.5 hours from port. It’s not like this was half way across the Atlantic and came out of the blue.
Fine, you guys win. I was trying to argue it seems more likely the entire crew was awake and ready for this thing, but if you guys really think half the crew was likely sleeping in their bunks and not alarmed then so be it.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:35 am to tgrbaitn08
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Do you have any idea what the boat crew make up is on a lift boat like that...
Not counting the 7 guys on the coil tubing crew...the boat isnt their responsibility.
Yes I’m well aware. Just because they weren’t involved doesn’t mean they were sleeping in their bunks though. Is it not fair to say they were likely at some point of being alert?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:36 am to tgrbaitn08
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If the capt didnt sound the general alarm how would the guys off watch sleeping know that shite was going down?
Probably a dumb question but, would they not feel the rocking and be like well these waves seem bigger than normal? Just trying to grasp the situation. Not sure what you actually "feel" out there.
That video of the shrimp boat is terrifying. I bet minutes seem like hours.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 9:39 am
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:37 am to baldona
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They were 3.5 hours from port. It’s not like this was half way across the Atlantic and came out of the blue.
They left the dock at 12pm...that is when the second watch comes on.....the boat flipped at 1540....the off watch guys could have been taking showers, eating, going get a nap....the cook and galley hands may or may not have been sleeping or cleaning up after lunch. The crane operator was def watching TV or sleeping...the engineers/oilier could have been down in the engine room...
Second mate was probably in the wheel house with the capt.....deck hands were beating off in the lounge probably watching porn
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:38 am to baldona
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Yes I’m well aware. Just because they weren’t involved doesn’t mean they were sleeping in their bunks though. Is it not fair to say they were likely at some point of being alert?
You are right they were ready for it. That is why they all had life jackets on and are being scooped up as we speak. Accidents happen man and this is just a shitty situation for all involved.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:39 am to tgrbaitn08
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He worked on a charter boat out of Orange Beach baiting hooks and bottom fishing for Red Snapper
Care to explain the difference in being 25 miles offshore in a 45 ft fishing boat or a 45 ft O&G boat when the weather turns to shite?
There’s other industries outside of O&G that spend time off shore
Posted on 4/15/21 at 9:42 am to TDTOM
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You are right they were ready for it. That is why they all had life jackets on and are being scooped up as we speak. Accidents happen man and this is just a shitty situation for all involved.
There are reports some of them didn’t have life jackets on and potentially sleeping when it happened. This is the only thing I’m trying to argue or at least understand. This boat wasn’t meant for bad weather. It just seems to me like a boat not built for this that if the weather turned to shite the captain would be quicker to get everyone on board in some sort of alerted and prepared state. Not jerking off in their bunks in other words.
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