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re: Unpopular opinion: it should be easier to take children away from their parents

Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:12 am to
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:12 am to
It sucks, but poverty has been an aspect of humanity since the start. Seizing kids and making the rest of the citizenry pay for them in huge government orphanages isnt going to accomplish a thing because government cant do anything right. What needs to happen is our society needs to take a look in the mirror and realize the stupidity that is being peddled in mainstream media/internet and change. Not going to happen though.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:13 am to
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Right. More government in our lives. Just what we need.
this is the stupidest shite ever. You realize there’s a reason for government right? It’s actually not good to be an anarchist. Small government means there is still SOME government. Most people who say their for “small” government seem to not ever want any government policy. Look I get it paperwork suck but sometime that shite is necessary to make things run smoothly.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:14 am to
I don’t want to increase orphanages I want to decrease frick trophies and punish parents who don’t raise their kids right. Where in my entire fricking rant did I talk about poor people? You can be poor and raise your kids with morals. Why do we let someone who burns there kids with curling irons keep their kids? And that is a 100% true case. The cps knew about and aloud that psycho count to keep her kids
Posted by TDcline
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:14 am to
People on government assistance; food stamps, ebt, wic, medical card, “my check”, or any of those should have a set number of kids they can have.
This post was edited on 2/8/20 at 9:18 am
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:16 am to
What kind of eugenicist nonsense is going on in here?
Posted by ProbyOne
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:17 am to
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And where are those kids gonna go?


This.

Taking kids from parents is rarely the best solution. Even if the parents are really shitty.
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:17 am to
Nope. The main reason I don't smoke weed anymore is because of what happened with a friend of mine and CPS. His ex gf was a crazy jealous bitch and called COS on him and his wife nearly 7 years since he had last spoken to her. Well they HAVE to go out and do an interview with the family and drug test them both. He tested positive for weed and the mother was clean. His kid was taken from him for almost 6months over a fricking positive drug test for pot. They are your typical normal family with a normal life but some crazy bitch from his past turned their life on its head by dialing the phone.

There are situations where these types of agencies need to just use some common sense. Like my friend. They knew nothing wrong was going on, but they had to do what is written. And then you have the opposite where it's obvious to anyone that the kids are in horrible situations but some technicality says nobody can do shite about it and the kids stay and continue to be mistreated/neglected. All forms of government need more common sense and less power.
Posted by eScott
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:17 am to
Posted by adavis
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:17 am to
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Seizing kids and making the rest of the citizenry pay for them in huge government orphanages isnt going to accomplish a thing


But we’re already paying for it in the form of government benefits. We’ll pay for another generation of them and another after that if we don’t break the cycle. An expansion of orphanages and foster care isn’t as bad as continued support for disgusting households. Keeping kids with shitty parents keeps our prisons full and our planned parenthood agencies busy. That costs a lot more to taxpayers than investing in them now. Plus, it’s kind of the right thing to do as Christians.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:18 am to
If not wanting small children potentially murdered or starve to death because they have meth head parents is eugenics then frick I guess I’m a eugenicist. This is why our country can’t get fixed when we address real issues people wanna label those people as the evil ones.
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:18 am to
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I don’t want to increase orphanages I want to decrease frick trophies and punish parents who don’t raise their kids right.


If you start seizing more kids you have to have a place to put them, hence orphanages. These problems youre listing are mainly prevalent in impoverished homes - but I dont want government in the business of what makes a good or bad parent. Sorry hoss. We all know what happens when politicians are given powers - they keep taking more and more until its thoroughly corrupt and dysfunctional.

Go to North Korea if that's what you want, comrade.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:20 am to
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ut we’re already paying for it in the form of government benefits. We’ll pay for another generation of them and another after that if we don’t break the cycle. An expansion of orphanages and foster care isn’t as bad as continued support for disgusting households. Keeping kids with shitty parents keeps our prisons full and our planned parenthood agencies busy. That costs a lot more to taxpayers than investing in them now. Plus, it’s kind of the right thing to do as Christians.
finally somebody gets it. It’s like the only things liberals and conservatives can agree on is keeping kids lives shitty
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:21 am to
MOAR GOVERNMENT
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:25 am to
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but I dont want government in the business of what makes a good or bad parent. Sorry hoss. We all know what happens when politicians are given powers - they keep taking more and more until its thoroughly corrupt and dysfunctional. Go to North Korea if that's what you want, comrade
they already are in that business you fricknut. What do you think the cps is. I’m a trump supporter I’ve voted for him once I’m gonna do it again in November. I’m not a communist and I’m not on the left. But I do understand sometimes humans are fricking idiots and sometimes their fricking evil you have to make decisions on whether or not you’re going to let those types of individuals hurt other humans lives. I mean I guess by your logic if the government isn’t in the business of taking kids then if a parent has their kid on a leash like a dog and feeds them day old table scraps that’s their right huh? I mean shite their kids their property right? Who are we tell others how to raise their kids? That’s your point right?
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:26 am to
Nothing says success like the government raising children
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:27 am to
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If not wanting small children potentially murdered or starve to death because they have meth head parents is eugenics then frick I guess I’m a eugenicist. This is why our country can’t get fixed when we address real issues people wanna label those people as the evil ones.


That's not why you're a eugenicist. This is:

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you should be forced to get your tubes tied/vasectomy or face criminal charges.


Forced sterilization is a staple of eugenicist thought, along with curtailing reproduction of "the dregs of society" who "breed like rabbits." Take your Margaret Sanger bullshite and gtfoh.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:28 am to
Did I say the government should raise them? I just don’t think their terrible parents should.
Posted by SCLibertarian
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:29 am to
And when the state says holding a certain belief is a form of abuse, what do you do then? Giving the government more power is a recipe for disaster, especially when it involves the fundamental right to rear your children in a manner you see fit.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:29 am to
Well what should we do about those children who getting tortured is apart of their normal lives? If we can’t afford for them it’s better if they never exist that’s my point please do I have to spell everything out?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:29 am to
It’s honestly horrifying that you are a teacher.
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