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re: United CEO doubles down, calls passenger "belligerent", claims United followed rules

Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27473 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:47 pm to
I asked my friend who is a pilot with United about the four crewmembers who had to board the flight...

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It was a crew to fly the plane back the next morning. Apparently something happened late & they needed to send a crew to Louisville. They needed 1 extra seat to get the last crewmember on so they tried to remove a passenger and offered him $1000 and over night accommodations. If they didn't make the flight, the morning flight would have cancelled and 100 people would have missed their flight instead of the 1 guy
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 2:49 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111511 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:47 pm to
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He bought the ticket, he should know the rules and regulations that comes with it
From what I have read, and from some legal people here at my work, they have have actually broke the rules. This wasnt an overbooking for another paid customer. They bumped four paying customers for 4 employees. The way their rules read on this is ambiguous. So united may have actually been more than just dumbasses here, they may have been performing illegal practices as well.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:48 pm to
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Gets me worked up to see people complaining about a situation when they have no idea o
In fairness, you're acting very certain about something when we know there are some actual aviation attorneys who disagree with you.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111511 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:48 pm to
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If they didn't make the flight, the morning flight would have cancelled and 100 people would of missed their flight instead of the 1 guy
Incorrect. They could have driven a car the 4.5 hours to Louisville.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9230 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:49 pm to
Well he has to say that, or lose his job do to the idiotic public. I don't see why you're trying to use that as an excuse for the action of a tempor tantrum throwing doctor.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:49 pm to
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What's the difference between being told the flight is overbooked sitting at the gate or once you're boarded?
United's policy may be the difference
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:49 pm to
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and how a company must react.




Here's the full statement:

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"Dear Team,

The truly horrific event that occurred on this flight has elicited many responses from all of us: outrage, anger, disappointment. I share all of those sentiments, and one above all: my deepest apologies for what happened. Like you, I continue to be disturbed by what happened on this flight and I deeply apologize to the customer forcibly removed and to all the customers aboard. No one should ever be mistreated this way.

I want you to know that we take full responsibility and we will work to make it right.


quote:

It's never too late to do the right thing. I have committed to our customers and our employees that we are going to fix what's broken so this never happens again. This will include a thorough review of crew movement, our policies for incentivizing volunteers in these situations, how we handle oversold situations and an examination of how we partner with airport authorities and local law enforcement. We'll communicate the results of our review by April 30th.

I promise you we will do better.

Sincerely,

Oscar"



Derp
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:50 pm to
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I'm not demanding anything
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I'm demanding that they find other solutions to getting crew around besides telling a SEATED, paying passenger to leave.




Uhh....
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27473 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:50 pm to
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Incorrect. They could have driven a car the 4.5 hours to Louisville.
ha...you have no clue
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46852 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:50 pm to
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Gets me worked up to see people complaining about a situation when they have no idea of what went on and how a company must react.


The bloody senior citizen was dragged down the aisle after being plucked out of a seat that he had reserved, paid for, showed up early to claim, and claimed. It was his fricking seat mo'.

Does your trailer park manager come frick your girlfriend because he technically owns the lot even though you pay rent on it? NO!!!! He does it because she is a whore.

I seent the video of what them big baws did to that little old man.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:51 pm to
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its bull shite. sorry if you believe otherwise

I don't, but I hope the example you laid out about more expensive flights meaning more empty seats made the lightbulb go off in your head about why that's not feasible.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Well he has to say that, or lose his job do to the idiotic public. I don't see why you're trying to use that as an excuse for the action of a tempor tantrum throwing doctor.




Seriously, can you read?

I've repeatedly argued from the stance that they are a publicly traded company


You literally responded that I have no idea how a company must react because I'm not in charge of an airline
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111511 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

ha...you have no clue
Excuse me?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130298 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:51 pm to
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Incorrect. They could have driven a car the 4.5 hours to Louisville.


Yup.

Tell the damn crew to drive, not the consumer that PAID for a ticket.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:52 pm to
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Does the wording matter? He bought the ticket, he should know the rules and regulations that comes with it

Maybe he did, and according to aviation attorneys, he was exercising his right, so...
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:53 pm to
So now he decides it's a good idea to play nice.

That's disappointing. I was hoping he'd continue the dumbassery, and we could watch United burn.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:54 pm to
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Does your trailer park manager come frick your girlfriend because he technically owns the lot even though you pay rent on it? NO!!!! He does it because she is a whore.




Have to lay it out so people on this board can understand it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130298 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Uhh....


anything SPECIFIC I should have said. Simply that the consumer comes first.

Find solutions to get your crew around without involuntarily fricking over a paying consumer.

What other business is this sort of behavior acceptable?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:56 pm to
If anyone looks up the most recent statement from Munoz on Twitter, the first comment in response is



LINK



Eta: these comments crack me up

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Ryan Perez? @RyanmPerez
@united Bro you need a Pepsi
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66103 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 2:59 pm to
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shel311


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janky


nobody is arguing the policy you retards. everyone just disagrees with the policy in place. airlines need to fix that
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