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re: Under what conditions would you want to be Immortal?

Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:04 pm to
Posted by TheFirstSaints
Member since Nov 2019
144 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:04 pm to
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Y'all gotta be fkn kidding me. I'm only in my 40s and already wonder what planet im on half the time with all the cesspool "progressive thinking"

I don't want to be a part of society even 50 yrs from now. No way


Being 36 I know how you feel. Heck in many cases I'm considered an "older Millennial" and yet I truly feel like I have very little in common with younger Millennials and Gen Z. I truly feel like the people in their 20s and early 30s are so different than me. I honestly feel more comfortable around people in their late 30s and 40s and find that I have more in common with that group as well.

With 1,000 years though you'd probably see things come full circle several times. You could easily see people 300 years younger than you who end up being really conservative because of how badly liberal people 100 years younger than you screwed everything up.

Plus think, only living 100 years 1 or 2 poorly timed recessions can really screw up your life. In 1,000 years you'll have multiple "good times" and "bad times". But at least you wouldn't get screwed over like people who grew up in the depression got screwed over.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20385 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:05 pm to
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The idea of death scares the frick out of me. It’s going to suck those few minutes before you die. I can’t even imagine the dread.


My guess is that you're still a young man. Things tend to change as you age in terms of your own mortality. My only fear as far as death is to not have some debilitating illness that makes me a huge burden on my loved ones.

My take is "What's the point of living a long life if you don't have your health?"
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64683 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:05 pm to
I would like to live a long time but immortality sounds like it could become a hell.
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:05 pm to
At first thought the answer would be HELL YES sign me up....but thinking a second I'd take it if I could reverse it when I choose. As well to bring my immediate family. I was born in the best country the world has ever seen. I have a great job and my hobbies are outdoor based. Who's to say all that ends and the world collapses onto itself and becomes a shite show. What fun would that be. Yes I'd be alive but what fun is that if I'm living in hell.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64683 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:06 pm to
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My take is "What's the point of living a long life if you don't have your health?"



A lot of companies looking to extend health span.
Posted by TheFirstSaints
Member since Nov 2019
144 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:08 pm to
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For me, it’s not necessarily the minutes before death. I hope I live long and prosperous enough to be able to be at peace with that part of the process.

I’m just scared of the afterlife. I can’t fathom the idea of everything just being over. The only thing we personally experience in this world is life. Death is unknown. We see it, but we don’t experience it (with the exception of someone who is revived on an operating table).

I believe in the afterlife. Unfortunately, I don’t think it will be like the fairy-tale image I’ve retained from childhood of a bunch of white robes and wings floating on clouds.


This is very similar to how I feel as well. I do believe in some sort of higher power as well as some sort of afterlife. With that said, I don't necessarily believe in it being some white pearly gates with God and all your friends and family waiting. I grew up Catholic but I've pretty much fallen away from Catholicism in my adult life.

I have enough doubt in the afterlife that it just scares me. Here's what I know, I don't remember anything before birth, for all I know it could easily be the same after death. Like you I have a hard time accepting that everything would just be over but part of thinks it would be.

For me I'm not scared of the actual act of dying, more the before and after. The suffering before dying and the unknown of what happens after.
Posted by shankedshot
Wham
Member since Oct 2019
233 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:09 pm to
Nice - foolish thoughts. You are not given tomorrow. Learn to live today and let foolishness go.
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
4240 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:14 pm to
Only if there could be more than one.

frick having a Highlander after me.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24878 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:14 pm to
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Why do you say that? Life to me is almost always preferable to death. The only exception IMO would be if you're old and truly suffering from pain and/or medical issues or if you're imprisoned.

You’ll be the last thing alive at some point. Or maybe you’d be become trapped somewhere forever. Not to mention you’ll see everyone you ever knew die.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:16 pm to
Or catch a life long prison sentence
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138847 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:16 pm to
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if I could go back and have my early 20s body.
that Timex body

Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10515 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:18 pm to
The conundrum of “immortality” is usually a question of having it or not. Not with many other specifics. It’s a great and fun thought exercise because of the short sightedness of humans yet the immensity of time. It’s not impossible to argue for immortality, just difficult.

It’s hard to have the real thought with too much control like the below implies.

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For me being 36 but suffering from several medical issues I would absolutely take immortality. If for no other reason I could focus on heath for a few hundred years until we get to the point where any ailments I have would be curable.


Having an on-off switch makes it not fair and non-thought provoking.

Imagining being immortal/immune/eternal youthful is a good one. Then imagine your family all passes. Not too sad seeing as a lot of people see this happen.

But then all your friends pass. You’re still here. Then your grandchildren pass. Then their grandchildren.

You’re still here.

Then a thousand years go by. Then 10,000. Is humanity still alive? Maybe. Maybe not.

Do you get to spread out to the stars with humanity or stay on earth if we go extinct.

Say we survive. You go to space. Humanity evolves, changes. Yet you stay human.

1,000,000 years go by.

Humans either go extinct or no longer exist as they’ve evolved beyond recognition.

1,000,000,000 years go by. You’re alone regardless of humanities survival or evolution.

1x10^35 years later. The last protons fade away and all light goes out.


You’re still here.
Posted by TheFirstSaints
Member since Nov 2019
144 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:22 pm to
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Having an on-off switch makes it not fair and non-thought provoking.

Imagining being immortal/immune/eternal youthful is a good one. Then imagine your family all passes. Not too sad seeing as a lot of people see this happen.

But then all your friends pass. You’re still here. Then your grandchildren pass. Then their grandchildren.

You’re still here.

Then a thousand years go by. Then 10,000. Is humanity still alive? Maybe. Maybe not.

Do you get to spread out to the stars with humanity or stay on earth if we go extinct.

Say we survive. You go to space. Humanity evolves, changes. Yet you stay human.

1,000,000 years go by.

Humans either go extinct or no longer exist as they’ve evolved beyond recognition.

1,000,000,000 years go by. You’re alone regardless of humanities survival or evolution.

1x10^35 years later. The last protons fade away and all light goes out.


I agree that humans are pretty much ill equipped to truly grasp to the concept of immortality. The concept of truly never ending.

In fact I never said I would 100% do it. I would probably only do it if I could also have some family members and friends be immortal as well. And in theory I would only do it if I could at least keep my mid 30s body.

If I was in my 50s or 60s and had to keep that body I probably wouldn't do it at that point.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85538 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:29 pm to
Would suck to be immortal and then receive a life sentence
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85538 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:31 pm to
Eventually the sun will consume the earth and I don’t know if being immortal will make us survive that
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:50 pm to
None. I'd be happy to not wake up tomorrow morning, other than my kids being upset until the life insurance checks showed up.

Have you seen the people at gas stations, on flights, waiting at the DMV, or at your kid's school? It's only going to get worse, and will never get better than it is right now. I'd rather die than experience the continued, non-stop decline in civility and intelligence of man for all of eternity (or until something kills us off which couldn't happen soon enough).
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 8:51 pm
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5976 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:12 pm to
......I am immortal. I'm going to live forever. Sure, I'll have to dump this aged diseased carcass I call a body, but I'm going to fly one day. I can't wait to lounge around those far distant galaxies. So many people I'm looking forward to meeting...........like this guy Augustine. You know folks like that.

I'll be hard leaving the folks I love but hey......I'm gonna die eventually. You will too.




This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 9:19 pm
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7751 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:14 pm to
The older I get the more I understand people being comfortable with passing away.

One of the Ann Rice books had a vampire that was 5,000 years old. Sat around like a statue because he had seen and experienced everything...forever eventually gets really boring.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
62215 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:53 pm to
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I’d be all for it if I could go back and have my early 20s body.

Hell yeah. I still have your pics of that body.



I’m OK with just being immortal beloved.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 9:55 pm
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
39015 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:59 pm to
Shut up

it wasn’t anything special back then... I just want the luxury of not having every joint randomly aching
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