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re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 5:12 pm
[quote]You don't think SF would try to stop u from running to the 2 one 1st & 2nd?[/quote] The immediately kneel at the 3. ...
I actually didn't celebrate at all and left the bar I was watching the game at because I knew we had just lost the game. ...

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 4:44 pm
I'd be more inclined to fire CSP over making the same mistakes over and over again late in the game than I would for taking a risk and changing it up. I would've had more respect for CSP if Smith had gone down at the 1 and he bled the clock, allowing the offense to potentially win the game. Su...

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 4:35 pm
[quote]Yea cuz we were guaranteed a TD trying to push it in against the best DL in the league....[/quote] I know what was guaranteed. That our defense, a defense that hadn't stopped the 49ers all game lone, would not be able to stop the 49ers from getting the winning FG. ...

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 4:31 pm
[quote]You would be on here bitching and moaning if Smith took a knee at the 1 and then the Saints failed to punch it in. Smart guy, you go down at the 1 or wherever you like if you need a FG to win but not if you need a TD. Go look up the winning % of each scenario. That's what coaches at the elite...

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 4:28 pm
[quote]At this point it’s a risk I want Payton and the saints to take. frick the defense in the final minute of any big game.[/quote] Agreed. I know it's not guaranteed. There could be a fumble or an INT but at this point I'm tired of seeing our defense lose us important games. I'd rather swit...
And the 49ers sure as heck aren't scared of us. And they know it'll be even tougher for us having to go to SF in the playoffs. Our defense probably doesn't stop the SF offense one time out there. If we play the 49ers in the playoffs Drew and the offense will need to score a TD on EVERY POSSESSION...

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 4:21 pm
[quote]So, I'm guessing you feel you could GUARANTEE that the Saints could've punched it in from the 1. We lost to a better team, get over it! In the NFL, there's no guarantees. How much shyt would this board be talking if Smith took a knee at the 1 and then the Saints fumbled the next play OR s...

Note to Drew Brees

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 4:19 pm
Do not ever trust this defense to ever hold a lead for you. Assume that you need to score with 5 seconds or less left. If you do this you have a chance to win another SB before retiring. If you rely on this defense they WILL destroy your chances in the playoffs EVERY TIME! Learn from this. ...

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 4:15 pm
[quote]but if not you have to hope the defense can hold.[/quote] No you don't!!! You realize that the defense WILL FAIL YOU!!! I wouldn't trust this defense with a 7 point lead with the opponent having 15 seconds left and no TO's. I have no faith at all in this defense. ...

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 4:11 pm
[quote]And what happens if we fumble or get called for holding? Then you are scrambling to get the TD. You take the points when you can and hope you can get the 2 point conversion but if not you have to hope the defense can hold. [/quote] Doesn't matter. At least the game is in the hands of the ...

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 4:09 pm
[quote]I see your point and your conviction to it. But I’ve seen many goal line stands this year in the NFL to win games. And I’ve seen the Saints fail I side the five and on 2pt conversions. So honestly, the analytics never had us at 90%. Even if we kneel at the 1 on that TD we aren’t at 90%....

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 4:08 pm
[quote]Even without hindsight I wished Smith would have given himself up at the one. I've just seen this play out too many times. Most will say you don't take points off the board but I trust Drew from the one with 3 tries to punch it in much more than I trust our defense to make a stop there. I don...
Brees needs to realize that the defense will let him down every time. He should've told all his receivers that if they can score to go down at the 1 or 2 yard line. Brees needs to know that he can leave any time left on the clock for the defense to lose the game. ...

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 4:05 pm
[quote]So Trequan goes down at the 1 and then we fumble the next play. Have to score there[/quote] Or we bleed the clock and then Brees gets a TD and we win the game. See how it can go either way. Either way, do you trust the offense or the defense at the end of the game? I know which side I t...

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 4:02 pm
[quote]Before I answer this, can you tell me how many times the offense has failed to score a TD from inside the 5 with two plays And 10 sec to go? Thanks I’ll wait.[/quote] I don't know to be honest but which side do you trust more, the offense or the defense? Answer honestly. You know why...

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 3:59 pm
[quote]Here’s the thing. The book doesn’t know we stalled out inside the 5 a bunch and missed a two point conversation and a 4th and short. When you can score you score.[/quote] The question you have to answer honestly is this. Which scenario do you trust more: Behind in the game, our offen...

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 3:56 pm
[quote] I honestly don't think I've seen a stupider football post.[/quote] I don't think I've ever seen anything more stupid than a fan base continually relying on a defense that has made a living giving up leads with under a minute left in the game. What gave you the thought that our defens...

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 3:54 pm
[quote]So on 1st & 2nd and Goal at the 1 we should lose 3 yards each play & then try to score on 3rd/4th & goal from the 7/8 yard line?[/quote] No you just run to the 2 and then kneel down. Do that for 2 plays and bleed the clock. Then you have 2 chances to win the game and leave SF no time to do...

re: Sean Payton never learns

Posted by TheFirstSaints on 12/8/19 at 3:53 pm
[quote]Our defense has played great all year. Chauncey and pj have blown more games than I can count. If we don’t get both of those back breaking penalties on 3rd down our defense gets off the field and has enough juice to finish the game. Then cgj again blows coverage on Kittle for the game ending ...