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re: UL Lafayette Charges $1,000 for online accounting book
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:52 pm to jmarto1
Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:52 pm to jmarto1
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What is the problem with a kid using a tablet or laptop? The digital copy should cost less to produce and has less waste.
I don't disagree but the charge was a publisher decision though apparently encouraged by the accounting department, I suspect by a professor in the accounting department who is maybe a little too old school.
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 1:53 pm to Areddishfish
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The school responded to the Tweet saying the price was set with "good intentions"
They "intended" to make "good" money off of their students through the text book extortion racket.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:16 pm to CptRusty
Probably just a rounding/ accounting error right? Should have been $100?
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:16 pm to Areddishfish
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The school responded to the Tweet saying the price was set with "good intentions" but they needed to "explain the rationale."
That's a good one
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:39 pm to mdomingue
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So I guess all the geniuses on here couldn't follow simple links to get to the whole story?
USL has changed their tune during this.
First, it was "we had a good reason for setting the price, we just need to explain it".
Then after a couple of days, it was "this was a publisher decision, supported by us, meant to encourage people to buy the materials through us".
But I assume USL isn't the only school using these materials. So for the publisher to set the cost at $999 for direct purchase, it has to impact students other than USL students.
If the publisher was trying to dissuade students from buying it directly, the publisher could have always, you know, NOT DIRECTLY SOLD THE MATERIALS.
These university bookstores make profit off of book sales. The cost of books has gotten so high that students are now looking at any means necessary to get books. Used to be, your only options were the school bookstore, maybe one or two off-site local bookstores, or reaching out directly to students who already took the test.
Now, you can basically search nationwide for books, which probably led to this.
I also don't understand how UL wasn't very clear to their students in telling them about this, up front.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:40 pm to Areddishfish
Higher ed is off the rails.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:45 pm to LSUFanHouston
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I also don't understand how UL wasn't very clear to their students in telling them about this, up front.
That's what the modern university system is like. My son is at LSU and it is no better there. Fortunately, he is pretty savvy about stuff like this, however, the blatant money grabs that constantly go on is kind of pathetic.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:50 pm to Areddishfish
Didn't read the whole thread. But it's not as big of a deal as it seems. The accounting department requires you bring the book to class (and not electronically). And the electronic version used to be a bit cheaper than the normal textbook which costs like $300. So students used to just save a little money by buying the electronic version and printing out the pages for class. So they upped the charge on the electronic version to discourage that.
Now, I still think it's pretty shitty that they'd do that. But it's not like the online version was the only option.
Now, I still think it's pretty shitty that they'd do that. But it's not like the online version was the only option.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:08 pm to jennyjones
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Baggett?
That's the dude. Professional Ethics.
Apparently, he's no longer with us. That picture came up as the first hit. It's the one next to his obituary.
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:15 pm to TigerstuckinMS
I knew a guy who wpuld check his books out of the library every semester. Turn them in at the end and pay his fines. Saved a ton.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:18 pm to mdomingue
I would agree. There is a point where people just lose touch with the cutting edge. Politicians are really bad about this
Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:42 pm to mdomingue
quote:Still stupid.
$313
Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:49 pm to Hazelnut
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Didn't read the whole thread. But it's not as big of a deal as it seems.
No, you're being intentionally obtuse. Charging a student at a public university $1,000 to rent a required textbook for a semester is flat out theft. No paper, no storage of cases of books, no shipping, only minimal production costs which are all in-house. Flat out theft here.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:03 pm to Areddishfish
The rule back when I was in college was to go to a class for a week or two to figure out if a book was needed or if the professor tested off of lecture notes.
My step son started college this month and I was astounded at how books for college had gone from a shady exercise to a full on criminal racket.
My step son started college this month and I was astounded at how books for college had gone from a shady exercise to a full on criminal racket.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:04 pm to Scruffy
Apparently, the economics/finance/accounting related textbooks are some of the most expensive out there. Text book prices are just stupid.
Here is a graphic I found. 6 of the top ten in those fields. 8 if you lump labor management in the same broad category
Here is a graphic I found. 6 of the top ten in those fields. 8 if you lump labor management in the same broad category
Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:06 pm to Hazelnut
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The accounting department requires you bring the book to class
How is that ok with you?
The only justification for that is purely financial. It only serves the purpose of forcing people to buy something.
It’s 2018. Justify not even allowing ebooks.
Please.
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:08 pm to Areddishfish
Accounting is accounting. Students shouldn't pay a nickle for an accounting textbook. The rules change infrequently, rarely affect academic accounting, and when they do, the new rules are freely available.
Students should pay for some sort of homework function which allows students to work problems with auto grade and immediate feedback. That should cost under $100.
There has been massive rent-seeking in the textbook industry for years. That is changing
Students should pay for some sort of homework function which allows students to work problems with auto grade and immediate feedback. That should cost under $100.
There has been massive rent-seeking in the textbook industry for years. That is changing
Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:21 pm to LSUbase13
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$500 a semester education!
Posted on 8/27/18 at 5:25 pm to Steadyhands
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Yep, college textbooks are one of the biggest scams out there. Bet when the time comes, they won't even offer a buy back.on this book. Will claim the book has changed for the next semester.
How much of this insanity is due to Barnes & Noble taking over university bookstores ?
When I was in college ‘68 -‘72, my total tuition and books bill was about $2200...total.
A generation later, my kids were in college and costs were up 10 fold.
And now... something ain’t right.
Is this same $1000 textbook deal going on at other schools?
Posted on 8/27/18 at 5:49 pm to Overbrook
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Accounting is accounting. Students shouldn't pay a nickle for an accounting textbook. The rules change infrequently, rarely affect academic accounting, and when they do, the new rules are freely available.
Just above, someone posted a graphic that said the most expensive textbook for one college was tax accounting. A lot of basics in tax accounting - especially on the individual side - do change from time to time. I'm trying to remember just how in depth my two tax accounting classes went in undergrad - I feel like they were fairly deep.
On the financial side... textbooks had to be rewritten when everyone JUST KNEW we were going to go to IFRS, or at least something like IFRS. Then, when we decided to ditch that, I'm sure the books had to be rewritten again. I know they had to make CPA exam changes because of this.
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