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re: UK sugar tax worked to cut sugar consumption by 50%; wants to implement more taxes
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:37 pm to StringedInstruments
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:37 pm to StringedInstruments
They just need to make food perishable again.
When you buy fruit and produce at the grocery store and it sits in your house unchanged for more than a couple days - it is your insides that are rotting.
When you buy fruit and produce at the grocery store and it sits in your house unchanged for more than a couple days - it is your insides that are rotting.
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:42 pm to MikeD
If they just stopped subsidizing corn... don't need to tax it, just don't incentivize it.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:48 pm to Clames
I have a feeling in about 5 years there will be a shite ton of semaglutide lawsuits.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:05 pm to StringedInstruments
That’s not going to go over well in Iberia Parish, home of the sugarcane festival
Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:58 pm to StringedInstruments
Kind of makes sense given they have state paid healthcare.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:01 pm to StringedInstruments
Monsanto / Corn industry would never let that happen in the US.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:02 pm to StringedInstruments
Sugar and seed oils are as bad as tobacco. Sad we feed this stuff to minors without them understanding the lifelong addictions and health issues.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:04 pm to Big4SALTbro
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Daddy gov you harder is want you want Incentive is better option
Do you think kids should have tobacco and alcohol? We need regulation. The current model isn’t working.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:06 pm to MikeD
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US should do this. Or give incentives for healthy eating.
Oh no, not my purple drank!
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:13 pm to StringedInstruments
The US sugar lobby is too strong. They are subsidized, limit importation, and set the market.
No way it is taxed to the point of reduction in volume.
No way it is taxed to the point of reduction in volume.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:31 pm to MikeD
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US should do this
We already did this in the early 80’s with the sugar wars. That’s how we ended up with high fructose corn syrup in everything which is so much worse for you than sugar.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:49 pm to MikeD
Don't let the continental army catch you saying this.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 10:28 pm to MikeD
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US should do this.
The government using punitive taxes to force behavior that it wants is despicable.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 10:40 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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yep, prohibition worked wonders here............
So a sugar mafia would develop b/c of higher taxes on sodas and cookies? Sure sure sure.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:10 pm to StringedInstruments
The US could start by not subsidizing the production of food that’s bad for health. Taxing it is a bit much.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 2:44 am to Onyx Aggie
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The government using punitive taxes to force behavior that it wants is despicable.
I am blown away by the normally relatively sane OT advocating for government control in this thread. It's as if the insane hate for fatties has caused them to set aside their distaste for big gov.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 2:59 am to StringedInstruments
Why not let fatties who make shitty life decisions face the consequence of those decisions?
Why try to thwart Darwinism with communism?
The solution is neither a tax to force good judgment, nor an incentive to seduce good judgment.
The solution is to punish poor judgment with a narrowly tailored punishment fit precisely on the consequences of that shitty decision. If you want to eat a lot of sugar and be unhealthy, then you pay six times higher healthcare premium than healthy people, or whatever that multiplier turns out to be. The natural consequence of your own shitty decision.
It's like making food more expensive for fat people because they eat too much food. You don't disincentivize the action, but instead you make them suffer the natural consequence of that decision. You make them buy two airplane tickets because they're fat. You don't charge them more for their hot dog.
Why try to thwart Darwinism with communism?
The solution is neither a tax to force good judgment, nor an incentive to seduce good judgment.
The solution is to punish poor judgment with a narrowly tailored punishment fit precisely on the consequences of that shitty decision. If you want to eat a lot of sugar and be unhealthy, then you pay six times higher healthcare premium than healthy people, or whatever that multiplier turns out to be. The natural consequence of your own shitty decision.
It's like making food more expensive for fat people because they eat too much food. You don't disincentivize the action, but instead you make them suffer the natural consequence of that decision. You make them buy two airplane tickets because they're fat. You don't charge them more for their hot dog.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 4:14 am to StringedInstruments
This is what happens when you stop voting for people on principles like freedom and liberty, and begin to elect people on micromanaging people’s lives to bring about a world that you think everyone else should live in. It only ends in servitude, and by the time people figure that out, it’s too late. The pattern has been established, and you are under the control of people’s opinions, but more so, the options of what the state sees as good for you.
This post was edited on 7/11/24 at 4:16 am
Posted on 7/11/24 at 5:24 am to MikeD
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US should do this.
Where it has been tried, people will travel to outside the area to buy soda and bring it in.
Based on the support for a sugar tax, you probably could support a gun and ammunition tax for violence prevention.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 8:15 am to Mike da Tigah
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micromanaging people’s lives to bring about a world that you think everyone else should live in.
So fatties have the freedom to be fat, but who’s protecting my right to reasonable health insurance?
My rates should be a fraction of what they are. But the heathy citizens have to pay jacked up rates cause you people can’t put down the cigs and sodas. Is that freedom?
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