re: Ugggghh shopping for a car. Start today.

Most meaning the “market adjustments” crap

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Sleazy dealerships will use the old 'stalling tactic' by keeping a person in the dealership/lot for hours on end.

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Dealerships are pretty disgusting in person with their stupid make you wait for hours tactics. After test driving a new car at a dealership, their only way to be negotiate with me and compete for my business will ONLY be by email.

Here's an AI response why it is easier and better to negotiate for a new car by email.....

Using email is generally easier and better for the initial price negotiation because it lets you avoid high-pressure sales tactics, compare competing offers from multiple dealerships, and keep a written record of the agreed-upon out-the-door price. However, an in-person visit is eventually required to test drive and finalize the purchase.

Why Email is Better for Price Negotiation

No pressure: You can think clearly without a salesperson pushing you to buy right now.

Easy comparison: You can email several dealers at the same time and ask them to beat each other's prices.

Written proof: You get a hard copy of the total cost (including taxes and fees) so the dealer cannot change the price when you show up.

Volume pricing: Dealing with the internet sales department often gets you a lower price upfront because they focus on high sales volume.

Why Phone and In-Person Have Drawbacks

Phone calls: Sales reps try to get you on the phone to control the conversation, push emotional appeals, and avoid putting numbers in writing.

In person: You are physically at a disadvantage, surrounded by their inventory, making it much harder to walk away. Dealers can also slip in hidden fees or expensive add-ons.

The Best Strategy to Combine Them

Research first: Know the exact make, model, and trim you want.

Email for quotes: Contact multiple local dealers by email and request their lowest total "out-the-door" price.

Make them compete: Use the lowest quote to see if other dealers will drop their price further.

Go in person only to buy: Once you have the final price locked in writing via email, go to the dealership to test drive, inspect the car, and sign the paperwork.

Tesla.com. It doesn’t get any easier. It also has more American made parts than the other manufacturers.

I bought online but from an out of state dealer. The sale process was easy but the process of registering the car in Texas and getting a plate is a real PITA. Next time I’m just buying from a Texas dealer.

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you can do it on your own over email or text very easily.

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He tells you that every show.

I don't know if Truecar is still a thing but I used it a couple times to get a national and regional avg price to start at.

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specific vehicle

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This is the key, and I don't understand how more people don't get this.


Look, if you're just looking for a white Ford pickup, sure you can play dealer against dealer.


But if you're looking for a specific color and/or option combo, it gets a little tricky. Add a trade on top of that and it gets very difficult.

And now, with manufacturers not stocking dealerships like they used to, it is really tough to get a super deal like in the old days ( pre-2020).


Discounts can always be had on high volume models like pickup trucks, but popular models with desirable option packages are going to go for close to MSRP. If it is a super rare model and highly sought-after, ADM will be a thing.

Its a new world out there.

I love our VW Jetta Sport. Easiest purchase of my life and it's a great commuter car.

Got an offer for privilege of a buying a new 911 for MSRP +50K ADM.


Unfortunately, that's the going rate currently.

Had to pass.

And be willing to take a color or options you don't want or care about...


The non-specific buyer can definitely get a good deal.