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UFOs: Few answers at rare US Congressional hearing

Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:13 pm
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Two top military officials tasked with probing the sightings said that most can ultimately be identified.

But they said a number of events have defied all attempts at explanation.

The sightings recorded by the military include 11 "near-misses" with US aircraft.

Some Unexplained Aerial Phenomena (UAPs) - as the military terms UFOs - seem to have been moving without any discernible means of propulsion.


During the hearing at the House Intelligence Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation Subcommittee, top Pentagon intelligence official Ronald Moultrie said that through "rigorous" analysis, most - but not all - UAPs can be identified.

"Any object we encounter can likely be isolated, characterised, identified and, if necessary, mitigated," Mr Moultrie said.

A small number of incidents, however, still have no explanation. In one such incident in 2004, fighter pilots operating from an aircraft carrier in the Pacific encountered an object that seemed to have descended tens of thousands of feet before stopping and hovering.

In another incident, shown publicly for the first time on Tuesday, an object can be seen on camera flying past a US Navy fighter jet. The object remains unexplained.

"There are a small handful [of events] in which there are flight characteristics or signature management that we can't explain with the data we have available," said Scott Bray, the deputy director of naval intelligence. "Those are obviously the ones that are of most interest to us."

Mr Bray also sought to dispel the notion that UAPs might be extraterrestrial aliens, noting that no organic or inorganic material or unexplainable wreckage has ever been recovered, and no attempts have been made at communicating with the objects.

"We have detected no eliminations within the UAP task force that...would suggest it's anything non-terrestrial in origin," he said.


Lawmakers at the hearing expressed concern that any unexplained aerial phenomenon might be a threat to national security.

Rick Crawford, an Arkansas Republican, said that a failure to identify potential threats was "tantamount to intelligence failure that we certainly want to avoid".

"It's not about finding alien spacecraft," he added.

In the cases of objects with unexplainable propulsion, Mr Bray said that the US is "not aware" of any potential adversaries with such technologies.

Following the public hearing, the committee closed its doors for a private classified session with lawmakers.
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Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

UFOs: Few answers


They all know what happened after JFK blabbed to Marilyn.
Posted by LSUWoodworker
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by IH8ThreePutts
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:17 pm to
I just finished watching the open hearing. Not much new info was discussed. But there was one short video clip from the cockpit of a military plane that seemed to show a stationary object that accelerated at a ridiculous speed. Unfortunately the direct of naval intelligence didn’t come prepared with a slow frame by frame image of the event. They were trying to use a laptop mouse to click through the frames. Eventually they were able to stop the video on frame showing the UAP. Makes you wonder how many HD videos and pics that they have which will probably never be released.
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:17 pm to
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Mr Bray also sought to dispel the notion that UAPs might be extraterrestrial aliens, noting that no organic or inorganic material or unexplainable wreckage has ever been recovered, and no attempts have been made at communicating with the objects.

"We have detected no eliminations within the UAP task force that...would suggest it's anything non-terrestrial in origin," he said.



*I dont believe you GIF*
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:17 pm to
UFO = Unidentified Flying Object.

Just because you can't identify it, does not make it an alien aircraft.
Posted by HenryParsons
Member since Aug 2018
2077 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:20 pm to
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Unexplained Aerial Phenomena (UAPs)


UAP is now their preferred term. Please try to not mis-label any other lifeforms in the future.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:22 pm to
So what's going on here - is this some secret military tech that they're trying to hide in plain sight?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:23 pm to
Honest question:

Why is it more likely that UFOs are extraterrestrial intelligence rather than human time travelers from a future earth

We have no evidence that intelligent life exists in other planets

We have 100% evidence that intelligent life exists on earth

Why is it more logical to believe in aliens but not time travelers?
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:25 pm to
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We have 100% evidence that intelligent life exists on earth


I know one thing - it doesn't exist on this board
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:27 pm to
McAfee is on it...having the dude on tomorrow.
Posted by wasteland
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:30 pm to
I need the number to your weed plug
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Why is it more likely that UFOs are extraterrestrial intelligence rather than human time travelers from a future earth


Spacetime is linked, stop thinking linearly.
Panspermia is real and we are likely inheritors of that origin.

So, no matter what there's a product issue about life.

quote:

We have no evidence that intelligent life exists in other planets


Absolutely not true. There's evidence of Dyson type activity, it's observable to laypeople.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Why is it more logical to believe in aliens but not time travelers?


Or it could be a drone. That is way more logical than any alternatives you discussed. I have an unidentified stain on my couch. Doesn’t mean an alien did it.

UFO doesn’t mean time travel or alien.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39918 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:35 pm to
Those DoD and Intel guys aren't going to tell those clowns in Congress any more than they need to know.

If DoD had a tick tack that's the direct offspring of massive black budget projects, you aren't going to tell a blow hard like Schiff anything, even in a closed session.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:41 pm to
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Mr Bray also sought to dispel the notion that UAPs might be extraterrestrial aliens, noting that no organic or inorganic material or unexplainable wreckage has ever been recovered, and no attempts have been made at communicating with the objects.

I don't see how not recovering any material or not attempting to communicate with the UAPs "dispels the notion they might be extraterrestrial".

Doesn't confirm that they are, but I don't see how they can conclude they aren't with zero evidence.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:46 pm to
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Doesn't confirm that they are, but I don't see how they can conclude they aren't with zero evidence.

Don't lie to Congress, but don't tell the truth either. Tapdance and obfuscate.
Posted by McCorkleJonesGOAT
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:47 pm to
Alien lives matter
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41035 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:49 pm to
If they did not know anything... there is no reason to have a close door hearing after the public hearing.
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