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re: Two Palm Springs, CA Police Officers Killed Responding to DV Call

Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5166 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 8:59 pm to
1. Do you understand the difference between an on-the-job accident and risking being murdered for doing your job?

2. The statistical likelihood of officers being murdered is artificially lowered by the number of commissioned police who are working positions that don't expose them to any significant danger. The possibility of beat cops being violently attacked or murdered is actually pretty fricking high when you compare the estimated number of beat cops to the number of officers attacked per UCR stats
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:04 pm to
You deserve every down vote you get fricking moron
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26221 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:16 pm to
Taxi drivers have a higher rate of being killed on the job due to violence than police officers.

Being a police officer in the 60's and 70's was much more dangerous (fewer police, but many more deaths on the job).

In 1974, for example, 280 officers were killed in the line of duty, 140 to gunfire.

In 2015, 130 officers died in the line of duty, 39 by gunfire. So, with many more officers, the number of police officer murders has dropped significantly.





This post was edited on 10/8/16 at 9:22 pm
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5330 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:16 pm to
So sad
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5166 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

Being a police officer in the 60's and 70's was much more dangerous (fewer police, but many more deaths on the job)


Training was worse, ballistic vests were nonexistent, the use of SWAT teams for high risk arrest warrants was nonexistent, and the likelihood of hospitals being able to save a person suffering from a gunshot wound was FAR worse.

And again, statistically it's only about half (at best, probably actually as low as a third or a fourth) of the head count in BLS or DOJ estimates for total number of police that are actually doing street-level police work. There are hundreds of thousands of commissioned officers who have cycled out of street-level policing and are basically just office workers. That's not a dig against them but it's something that isn't actually adequately acknowledged in the BLS stats.
Posted by 75503Tiger
Member since Sep 2015
4821 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

Why is police officer life any more important than anyone else?


Because they run towards the problem.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26221 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 10:42 pm to
quote:


Because they run towards the problem.


You stated the most compelling explanation.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
23199 posts
Posted on 10/8/16 at 10:49 pm to
2 months until retirement, that's harsh.
Posted by pongze
IE, SoCal
Member since Nov 2007
1713 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 1:11 am to
My wife and I are both ER docs at the trauma center to which the cops were taken. We were not working today. We got a picture an hour or two ago showing a mass gathering at the ambulance bay of mourners as the two deceased's bodies were removed. It is heartbreaking. Palm Springs is a small town. We don't live there but I bet there were a lot in the community that knew them well.
Posted by gingerkittie
Member since Aug 2013
2675 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 1:18 am to
quote:

Statistically, there are a number of occupations that are more dangerous than police work.


That is true but in those professions the deaths are usually accidents and no one maliciously caused them.

Meanwhile cops are outright targeted to be killed nowadays just for being cops. I can't think of any other profession where people are purposely hated and killed like cops are.
Posted by Phil0ndeeez
Houston
Member since Apr 2013
1396 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 1:21 am to
Statistically I have a higher chance of fricking your mom in the arse than walking on mars
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
26988 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 2:40 am to
quote:

Taxi drivers have a higher rate of being killed on the job due to violence than police officers.



Are taxi drivers out there trying to protect you from worthless fricks? GFY
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6288 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 5:57 am to
quote:

Why is police officer life any more important than anyone else?


Their lives are certainly more important than yours.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19363 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 6:43 am to
quote:

When an officer dies in the line of duty, he or she was protecting you and me from the evil fricks out there in our communities. They do this every day they put on the uniform. They deserve the same respect and honor as a fallen soldier overseas.
MOST of us understand this and make efforts to line the routes to the officer's interment so we can pay tribute and honor their dedication to the creed of "protect and serve"


Meh that police protect and serve crap has been tainted 1000000x over. Its still a tragedy that they were murdered and the specific individuals (new mother and 35 year vet about to retire) make it extremely sad.

But special honors should be reserved for people who truly protect and serve like EMS and firefighters NOT police
This post was edited on 10/9/16 at 6:47 am
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10199 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 6:58 am to
You're such a piece of shite on so many levels.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19363 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 7:16 am to
quote:

You're such a piece of shite on so many levels.
No. I just want special honors reserved for the professions who have earned them like fire fighters and EMS.

Police can earn it when they(nation wide) start holding themselves accountable.
This post was edited on 10/9/16 at 7:18 am
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69233 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 8:18 am to
Man these cop threads bring out the tards :bow

I would hate to be a cop responding to a dv call. Every divorce lawyer I know keeps a gun in their desk because those domestic situations can be extremely volatile.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
74133 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 8:21 am to
quote:

Felix was previously sentenced to four years in prison for a 2009 attempted murder plot in which he confessed to assault with a firearm. He was also arrested in 2013 for fighting with police on the same doorstep where Saturday’s shooting occurred.


geez
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61773 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 8:29 am to
If the police didn't have to deal with scum like you and your friends I would be happy.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
74133 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 8:35 am to
The man officer was a father of 8 and the woman was only 27 years old.

Sad regardless, but geez. Why does this guy get to live. Not sure he should have ever been released and he better never once again be allowed back out on the streets.

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