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re: Two lifeforms merge in once-in-a-billion-years evolutionary event

Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:05 am to
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:05 am to
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So let me try to understand this like a 5 year old. They are saying the last time this supposedly happened was 1.6 billion years ago. How in the hell do they know this? Humans have only been on Earth 0.0125% of that 1.6 billion years, and able to detect microscopic organisms far less than that.
The planet changed massively once plants evolved. The temperature, the chemical composition of the atmosphere and rocks, etc. The oldest plant fossil is about a billion years old I believe, so the 1.6 billion years is probably a convergence of estimates based on that and the other data.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:07 am to
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They are saying the last time this supposedly happened was 1.6 billion years ago. How in the hell do they know this?


The problem is journalists are tards nowadays and headlines are for clickbait. The actual scientists don't write the headlines or the news articles. So not telling if any of this is misleading etc.
Posted by kciDAtaE
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:07 am to
What does this do for climate change? Do we need to charge money for use of algae to save the planet now?
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:08 am to
800,000,000 years since multicellular animals appeared.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 9:21 am
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:10 am to
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In the 4-billion-odd-year history of life on Earth, primary endosymbiosis is thought to have only happened twice that we know of, and each time was a massive breakthrough for evolution. The first occurred about 2.2 billion years ago, when an archaea swallowed a bacterium that became the mitochondria. This specialized energy-producing organelle allowed for basically all complex forms of life to evolve. It remains the heralded "powerhouse of the cell" to this day.

The second time happened about 1.6 billion years ago, when some of these more advanced cells absorbed cyanobacteria that could harvest energy from sunlight. These became organelles called chloroplasts, which gave sunlight-harvesting abilities, as well as a fetching green color, to a group of lifeforms you might have heard of – plants


Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:11 am to
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The first occurred about 2.2 billion years ago, when an archaea swallowed a bacterium


Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:21 am to
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Scientists have caught a once-in-a-billion-years evolutionary event in progress
What are the odds?
The odds that they've caught it in progress? Pretty good. The article mentions that it appears to have started 100 million years ago.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:22 am to
So plants will eventually start taking nitrogen straight out of the atmosphere? I wonder what they are going to put out in exchange?


I hope it's nitrous oxide and "huffing plants" becomes a thing.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:33 am to
Is this really that special? I just heard we have thousands of people in Louisiana merging with Chlamydia.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:51 am to
Posted by killedbyindians
Earth
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:11 am to
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the host cell provides nutrients, energy, protection and other benefits to the symbiote, until eventually it can no longer survive on its own


Microcosm of what the government is doing to the middle class. What began as a mutually beneficial relationship has turned to a government that grows in size and power until they swallow us whole and make us completely dependent on them taking us from symbiote to slave. Sorry this comment should be on the poli board.
Posted by Liberator
Ephesians 6:10-16
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:14 am to
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Two lifeforms merge in once-in-a-billion-years evolutionary event...

...Scientists have caught a once-in-a-billion-years evolutionary event in progress!!!]


One organism swallows another -- and it's called "Evolution" IN PROGRESS? Imagine THAT!

Scientists claim this was a "once-in-a-billion years" event -- and Scientists just happened to catch it unfold! BRAVO!! What an AMAZING coincidence! (What were the odds??)

Y'all see what's going on here, right? (Good thing for that little arrow thingy.) So set your watches to 4.4 billion years (ad change) and this new creature will "evolve" into a Washington DC politician. A rodent. Or cockroach. (Meh -- Let's just leave it to "Scientism" to resolve the final product.)




ALSO a once-in-a-billion-years odds: The play-by-play call from Suzyn Waldman and John Sterling:


"Holy sh#, Suzyn!! Can you believe what we just saw?? That's was a Braarudosphaera bigelowii that just engulfed a cyanobacterium!. You don't see that every day. They call that 'Evolution', Suzyn."

"Goodness Gracious, John. Of all the dramatic things I've ever seen -- Braarudosphaera bigelowii algae absorbing the cyanobacterium, evolving into life is the second greatest thing I've ever seen in my life! But of all the dramatic things I've ever seen - - Roger Clemens standing right in George Steinbrenner's box announcing he is back is still #1!!"

Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:17 am to
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it occurs when one microbial organism engulfs another, and starts using it like an internal organ. In exchange, the host cell provides nutrients, energy, protection and other benefits to the symbiote, until eventually it can no longer survive on its own and essentially ends up becoming an organ for the host



Sounds like a typical marriage to me....
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56290 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:18 am to
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Interesting you choose the octopus, the one organism on Earth we know for certain is an alien, to relate to humans

Yep, and by 'alien' it means that they evolved from a different extraterrestrial source, basically microbes from different asteroids at different times.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:20 am to
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once-in-a-billion-years evolutionary event


And we have 1,000 year floods every decade.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
6945 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:25 am to
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Man year or God year doesn’t matter. God is timeless. Also, if you think of God as energy the closer we get to pure energy the slower “time” becomes.

I listened to a lecture years ago on the mathematical and Physics proof of Gods existence. It was mind blowing. It was also hard as hell to follow completely as some of the math used was so far over my head.



It is entirely possible that you walked away from this experience with the assumption that anyone with knowledge of such complicated matters must know what they are talking about and therefore would not lie. Its also entirely possible that old boy doing the lecturing was selling snake oil as almost the entirety of his predecessors in the history of man have been...even more problematic is that old boy had received enough education to do the math and conclude as he apparently did....education is often wasted on folks in that way.

One thing is for certain....if a person is looking for proof of the existence of God that person has NO faith in the existence of God.....faith is all that's required, faith is an admirable quality...looking for proof is proof positive of the absence of faith....if one has faith what use would they have for proof?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6505 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:27 am to
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One thing is for certain....if a person is looking for proof of the existence of God that person has NO faith in the existence of God.....faith is all that's required, faith is an admirable quality...looking for proof is proof positive of the absence of faith....if one has faith what use would they have for proof?


why did God give us brains to think if he doesnt want us to?
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28705 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:31 am to
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Scientists claim this was a "once-in-a-billion years" event -- and Scientists just happened to catch it unfold! BRAVO!! What an AMAZING coincidence! (What were the odds??)
As mentioned above (and in the article), "just happened to catch it" means someone bothered to look closely enough at them at some point in the last 100 million years.
Posted by ProbyOne
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2004
1914 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:32 am to
We witnessed something terribly unlikely

Or maybe it’s not as uncommon as we thought
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57433 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:34 am to
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"fixing" nitrogen straight from the air, and combining it with other elements to create more useful compounds.
ugh purple hulled peas already do this.
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