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re: TWA 800 What do you think actually happened?
Posted on 4/26/23 at 10:50 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 4/26/23 at 10:50 pm to Jim Rockford
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So there's a Navy ship out there, presumably on an exercise. ~300 crew members on that ship know they fired a missile at the same time an airliner went down, and not one of them had come forward in 27 years?
Yeah the Youtube video fanboys love to report these theories as "settled science" along with no election fraud, 911 was an inside job, and the moon landing was a sound stage.
Modern aviation is a progression of improved safety through lessons learned in previous tragedies.
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Posted on 4/26/23 at 10:50 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:
So there's a Navy ship out there, presumably on an exercise. ~300 crew members on that ship know they fired a missile at the same time an airliner went down, and not one of them had come forward in 27 years?
Nb4 they tell you the cia must’ve killed all the sailors on the ship.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 10:53 pm to Tempratt
Shot down. No other 747 in 26 years of active service before TW800 had the same issues.
And the fbi getting involved in the investigation for some reason. The recovered debris is sitting in a warehouse in Washington DC now.
And the fbi getting involved in the investigation for some reason. The recovered debris is sitting in a warehouse in Washington DC now.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 10:58 pm to Tyga Woods
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Nb4 they tell you the cia must’ve killed all the sailors on the ship.
I haven’t met a single one of those sailors so it must be true.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 11:03 pm to Tempratt
If I remember correctly, there was a military helicopter, maybe from the Guard, and the pilot on board described a missile rising from the water and striking the plane. He was a very compelling witness.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 11:13 pm to Tempratt
I was pretty young at the time, but I vividly remember that morning as my mom found out she had a cousin on that plane along with her husband and baby.
Posted on 4/26/23 at 11:18 pm to GetBackToWork
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If I remember correctly, there was a military helicopter, maybe from the Guard, and the pilot on board described a missile rising from the water and striking the plane. He was a very compelling witness.
The forensic evidence and reconstruction don't corroborate this theory.
One would think a missile strike would be evident from all of the wreckage recovered but I suppose that is a conspiracy theory also.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:34 am to DownSouthCrawfish
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Someone spontaneously combusted like in that one unsolved mystery episode
I remember this episode vividly and it’s been decades since it aired.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 12:48 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Are there any other details about a possible navy missile other than a ship was there doing an exercise and some folks reportedly saw a flash? I was pretty young when this happened. It’s also part of the reason I am irrationally afraid of flying.
I remember this one and the ValueJet that crashed into the Everglades.
I remember this one and the ValueJet that crashed into the Everglades.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 3:41 am to TexasTiger08
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not one of them has come forward in 27 years?
This is always my problem with these stories. Hard to imagine with the number of people involved. People like to talk too much.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:23 am to Tempratt
Perhaps it would have, but since that accident airliners have been equipped with nitrogen generating systems that pump nitrogen into the tanks to prevent a reoccurrence
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:34 am to AndyCBR
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job, and the moon landing was a sound stage.
We may have landed on the moon, but the images you commonly see are 100% manufactured.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 6:02 am to Tempratt
There was significant precedence in the military side prior to 1996- NTSB did not pull this out of their arse.Also, the AC unit near that tank had overheated the vapors. It was a accumulation of bad luck
ny times
On Dec. 10, 1993, a Wisconsin Air National Guard KC-135 blew up on the ground at Gen. Billy Mitchell International Airport in Milwaukee. Six maintenance personnel died.
An investigative board found "clear and convincing evidence" that an explosion in the plane's center fuel tank was triggered by sparking in a wire within the housing of a fuel pump. The electrical arc managed to enlarge a tiny vent hole in the housing, sending molten copper from the wire into the tank. Fuel vapors quickly ignited.
-- On Sept. 17, 1987, a KC-10 exploded at Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana. Again, the cause was attributed to a fuel vapor explosion in the center fuel tank. One mechanic died.
Investigators found that fuel had leaked, and vapors probably had been ignited by arcing from a battery near the pump area for the tank.
Shortly after the incident, the Air Force ordered checks of all KC-10s and found a dozen similar leaks.
-- On July 24, 1989, at Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas, an Air Force B-52 bomber went up in flames, killing one person, after a refueling team mistakenly left a vent plug in the plane's center fuel tank. The plug caused too much vapor pressure to build. The tank ruptured, spilling 2,600 gallons of fuel onto the tarmac. Air Force investigators were unable to determine the ignition source.
-- On Oct. 4, 1990, an Air Force KC-135 tanker exploded during approach to Loring Air Force Base in Maine. That incident involved a rear aerial-refueling storage tank rather than the central fuel tank. Witnesses said they saw two explosions on the plane and then saw the tail section separate from the aircraft. Investigators blamed the accident, which killed all four crew members, on a fuel pump that overheated to at least 1,400 degrees.
-- In another rear-tank incident, on Sept. 20, 1989, a KC-135 assigned to the Alaska Air National Guard exploded on the ground at Eielson Air Force Base in Alaska. Two people died. The accident was attributed to a malfunction of a refueling pump, which set off vapors in a rear tank.
ny times
On Dec. 10, 1993, a Wisconsin Air National Guard KC-135 blew up on the ground at Gen. Billy Mitchell International Airport in Milwaukee. Six maintenance personnel died.
An investigative board found "clear and convincing evidence" that an explosion in the plane's center fuel tank was triggered by sparking in a wire within the housing of a fuel pump. The electrical arc managed to enlarge a tiny vent hole in the housing, sending molten copper from the wire into the tank. Fuel vapors quickly ignited.
-- On Sept. 17, 1987, a KC-10 exploded at Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana. Again, the cause was attributed to a fuel vapor explosion in the center fuel tank. One mechanic died.
Investigators found that fuel had leaked, and vapors probably had been ignited by arcing from a battery near the pump area for the tank.
Shortly after the incident, the Air Force ordered checks of all KC-10s and found a dozen similar leaks.
-- On July 24, 1989, at Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas, an Air Force B-52 bomber went up in flames, killing one person, after a refueling team mistakenly left a vent plug in the plane's center fuel tank. The plug caused too much vapor pressure to build. The tank ruptured, spilling 2,600 gallons of fuel onto the tarmac. Air Force investigators were unable to determine the ignition source.
-- On Oct. 4, 1990, an Air Force KC-135 tanker exploded during approach to Loring Air Force Base in Maine. That incident involved a rear aerial-refueling storage tank rather than the central fuel tank. Witnesses said they saw two explosions on the plane and then saw the tail section separate from the aircraft. Investigators blamed the accident, which killed all four crew members, on a fuel pump that overheated to at least 1,400 degrees.
-- In another rear-tank incident, on Sept. 20, 1989, a KC-135 assigned to the Alaska Air National Guard exploded on the ground at Eielson Air Force Base in Alaska. Two people died. The accident was attributed to a malfunction of a refueling pump, which set off vapors in a rear tank.
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 6:04 am
Posted on 4/27/23 at 6:18 am to Tempratt
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spark in the fuel tank.
I bet a navy launched rocket could cause a fuel tank to spark.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 6:35 am to Tempratt
This is my number 1 conspiracy theory of all time.
I never bought the spark theory
I never bought the spark theory
Posted on 4/27/23 at 6:39 am to Animal
There's no way a boat full of seamen kept an accidental shoot down of an airliner quiet for decades.
It's fun to break out the tinfoil hats every now and again, but TWA 800 wasn't shot down.
It's fun to break out the tinfoil hats every now and again, but TWA 800 wasn't shot down.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 6:56 am to AndyCBR
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One would think a missile strike would be evident from all of the wreckage recovered but I suppose that is a conspiracy theory also.
Wouldn’t evidence and investigation manipulation be a critical piece to any cover up?
Posted on 4/27/23 at 7:20 am to BabyTac
quote:Why are you people so hell bent on believing this and the flat earth bullshite? Do you think this is all going to be revealed one day and you can all stick your thumbs in your ears, wave your fingers and say nanner nanner boo boo?
We may have landed on the moon, but the images you commonly see are 100% manufactured.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 7:22 am to TexasTiger08
quote:that episode had millions of kids terrified of randomly kabooming in the late 90s
I remember this episode vividly and it’s been decades since it aired.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:19 am to Tempratt
I think the possibility of a short inside the fuel cell is very plausible. The concerns of the use of Kapton wire in aircraft was widely known and documented throughout the industry.
Linked is the FAA Advisory Circular that was issued 5 years before the accident. I remember when it was issued because we were witnessing the problems associated firsthand.
FAA AC25-16
Linked is the FAA Advisory Circular that was issued 5 years before the accident. I remember when it was issued because we were witnessing the problems associated firsthand.
FAA AC25-16
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