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re: Tulane School of Medicine placed on probation by accreditor amid allegations of racism
Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:10 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:10 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I’ve applied there 3 times and they’ve never had a problem telling me no
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:16 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Sad to see how bad higher education has gotten.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:22 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
If Tulane has been engaging in racism in student acceptance or staff hiring practices, then those are legal matters and government should be involved.
If Tulane staff have shown racism towards students, then the administration should step in and investigate, and hand out whatever punishment is appropriate.
None of this affects the school’s ability to teach medicine. Accreditation should never have been in question because of allegations of racism, or even actual racism.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:30 am to PowerTool
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Her mama name her “Princess,” but she a Kwane now.
Kween Doctor Princess sounds like something out of a kids show
Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:35 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Awesome! Nothing like MD's only passing college because of skin color. I mean what could go wrong with that? 
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:02 am to cwil177
quote:quote:This has been going on for a long time. Because, I mean, who doesn’t want an affirmative action applicant cutting on them for a life saving procedure?
The average stats among matriculants from the largest ethnic/racial groups are as follows:
Asian - Total MCAT: 513.8 | Total GPA: 3.77
African American - Total MCAT: 505.7 | Total GPA: 3.53
Latinx - Total MCAT: 506.6 | Total GPA: 3.62
White - Total MCAT: 512.2 | Total GPA: 3.77
I would have no issue with this if those numbers indicate they are not cutting out people with better scores. I suspect it does not mean that at all.
I think many, if not most, Americans do not have issues with the concept of affirmative action when it give a nod to equally qualified applicants who are minorities as a method trying to account for some of the inequities of the past (how long do you do this is another question).
Many still would probably be more understanding if some was to account for the lack of opportunities within certain communities if you are talking about admission to college initially and help within the framework of your studies while an undergrad. Even financial assistance in grad school would seem OK, I would think
The issue is the admission of people into fields that require more than competency in order to protect safety, health, and life. That should solely be based on merit with affirmative action only applied as a tie breaker.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:24 am to mdomingue
quote:Correct, by admitting a minority with lower scores, they are essentially taking the position away from someone else who has higher scores and "earned" their position. It's horse shite.
I would have no issue with this if those numbers indicate they are not cutting out people with better scores. I suspect it does not mean that at all.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:26 am to Epic Cajun
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It's horse shite
It's "equity". And it's how this country operates now.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:28 am to Epic Cajun
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Correct, by admitting a minority with lower scores, they are essentially taking the position away from someone else who has higher scores and "earned" their position. It's horse shite.
In my med school at least they knew that 50% or so of the AAs accepted would not make it through and they accounted for that in freshman class size
Those spots were “added” on top of the appropriate class size. So very few spots were actually taken away from more qualified people
All of the black students that graduated on time with me ended up being excellent doctors except for one who was psycho
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:28 am to RealityTiger
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I do not want a doctor anywhere near me because he/she simply fit the criteria for a diverse student body in med school. That's bullshite. I think the whole thing is bullshite, but when it comes to medicine you don't play around like that.
when all of this diversity bullshite runs its course at the teaching level and results are still the same, they will then come for professional licenses. That's when shite hits the fan.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:30 am to skullhawk
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they will then come for professional licenses.
Naw. Its not like gambling or liquor licenses in some states that have a limited supply
Professional licenses can be issued infinitely
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:53 am to Epic Cajun
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I would have no issue with this if those numbers indicate they are not cutting out people with better scores. I suspect it does not mean that at all.
Correct, by admitting a minority with lower scores, they are essentially taking the position away from someone else who has higher scores and "earned" their position. It's horse shite.
I have a friend who is a dentist in Houston now. He is of Korean extraction and belongs to a group called Asian Americans Against Affirmative Action.
Amazing that one of the smallest minorities has such a high number of applicants who far exceed the norm and are passed over at a higher rate than even whites are. Ivy's are the worst.
the logical gymnastics that progressives use to try to justify this are ridiculous and they even try to make a case that Asians are actually pro affirmative action but I haven't seen that at all.
ETA: FB page for Asian Americans Against Affirmative Action
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 9:56 am
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:55 am to Cosmo
quote:I thought about this, but if they are adding resources to educate those added spots, those spots could have gone to someone who actually earned it.
Those spots were “added” on top of the appropriate class size. So very few spots were actually taken away from more qualified people
Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:10 am to Cosmo
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Professional licenses can be issued infinitely
You have to pass standardized testing in many professional fields to obtain a license. One day a CPA, MD, PE, etc will be meaningless because of this addiction to force outcomes.
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 10:34 am
Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:49 am to mdomingue
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would have no issue with this if those numbers indicate they are not cutting out people with better scores. I suspect it does not mean that at all.
My wife was a member of a medical school admissions committee for a number of years. Most if not all medical schools typically have to decide between a number of equally qualified applicators for each available seat in a incoming class. The seats set aside for affirmative action applicants would absolutely have otherwise gone to better qualified applicants.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:02 am to GreenRockTiger
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Well yea. I don’t want to be under the knife of a doctor on her period, going through menopause, or worse if the doctor’s and nurses’ cycles all sync up.
Omg the horror
Omg sarcasm.
I make jokes in a similar manner to my doctor who is a female immigrant, and She pushes back about examining my prostate. Although maybe that last part is just her doing her job.
But seriously when cycles sync up the plumbing in those parts of a hospital or doctor’s office has to be problematic, and in my experience no one will admit to flushing a pad or tampon even after pads and tampons get pulled out of toilet with a pipe snake.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:06 am to jimbeam
I’m curious why diversity has to mean there is a drop in competency?
After all, all doctors must take and pass multiple examinations including board certification exams. If they pass them, then why not?
I’m sure there’s incompetent doctors of all races.
I would think diversity would mean a team more capable of understanding different people and a diverse set of experiences which can lead to better patient care.
Someone can relate or understand and be like, “oh I know what that is”. Just like people who are vets and get civilian jobs often have all this random knowledge that’s helpful.
After all, all doctors must take and pass multiple examinations including board certification exams. If they pass them, then why not?
I’m sure there’s incompetent doctors of all races.
I would think diversity would mean a team more capable of understanding different people and a diverse set of experiences which can lead to better patient care.
Someone can relate or understand and be like, “oh I know what that is”. Just like people who are vets and get civilian jobs often have all this random knowledge that’s helpful.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 9:21 am
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:10 am to RealityTiger
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I do not want a doctor anywhere near me because he/she simply fit the criteria for a diverse student body in med school. That's bullshite. I think the whole thing is bullshite, but when it comes to medicine you don't play around like that.
I’m not sure that’s even possible.
Even if someone got in that turned out to be less competent, they’d still have to pass the examinations in medical school and residency and become board certified. You can’t do that without knowing what you’re doing. You definitely don’t get faculty positions as a minority without competency.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 9:26 am
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:15 am to Epic Cajun
quote:But many times the resources become available through grants and fundraising for those purposes, so it would hardly be specifically taking from anyone else because the funds just otherwise wouldn’t have been available. Also, who’s to say that they don’t deserve to be there? Their performance in school afterwards and how they perform often shows a benefit to everyone.
I thought about this, but if they are adding resources to educate those added spots, those spots could have gone to someone who actually earned it.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 9:24 am
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:20 am to jimbeam
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