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re: Tulane Law vs. LSU Law

Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:10 pm to
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I would hate to see someone to go into hundreds of thousands of debt though if their dream is to stay in LA and get a job at Kean Miller or Jones Walker that can be gotten for literally half the cost of Tulane.


Look at the big firms like Kean Miller and Phelps Dunbar and count all the partners that went to LSU, then count the Tulane ones...
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:28 pm to
Nowadays a surprising number of the top quarter work as public defenders, out of choice. New Orleans Public Defenders pretty much only has top quarter kids from Ivies, Georgetown and NYU or top 10 from Tulane.

I figure most will do private criminal defense by year 5 or 6.

For the OP, there are jobs outside of big law with the federal government, state government, plaintiffs firms (think class actions), personal injury, litigation firms with 10-20 employees, and insurance defense.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:55 pm to
I think State of Louisiana starts lawyers at $58,000 or so.

Keep that in mind as you rack up student loans
Posted by LSUbase13
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 3:08 pm to
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Hypo: someone wants to get a law degree with the end goal of being a partner at a large law firm in Baton Rouge or New Orleans as soon as possible. What would be the best school?


Assuming that's all you want, I'd pick LSU.

Make no bones about it, Tulane is the better school of the two; however, if that's all you want, you might as well go with the cheaper of the two options.
Posted by LSUbase13
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 3:09 pm to
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Nowadays a surprising number of the top quarter work as public defenders, out of choice. New Orleans Public Defenders pretty much only has top quarter kids from Ivies, Georgetown and NYU or top 10 from Tulane.



That's actually the growing trend for much of the bigger, more attractive cities. Lafayette, Houma, Monroe, Alexandria, and such ... not so much.
This post was edited on 2/24/19 at 3:10 pm
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 3:20 pm to
Whichever school has the better basketball program at that time is the better school.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 3:24 pm to
You mean baseball, right?
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 3:29 pm to
My Father went to Tulane and became a senior partner at a law firm in New Orleans. But he finished first in his class..My point is don't worry where you go so much, just do your best to get in that high percentile.
Posted by LSULaw2009
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 4:22 pm to
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I think State of Louisiana starts lawyers at $58,000 or so. Keep that in mind as you rack up student loans


Several pay a bit more than that after a few years.

Plus those positions qualify for Public Service Loan Forgiveness.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 4:38 pm to
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I think State of Louisiana starts lawyers at $58,000 or so.

Keep that in mind as you rack up student loans


That’s the state average or is that what the state government is paying entry government legal employees? Doesn’t sound bad with Louisiana’s cost of living.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 4:44 pm to
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As practicing lawyers in everyday law, I’d put my LSU class up against that of any school. The system back then made us shrewd and tough. 
It also made us cautious not to take on complex cases that we were not ready to handle.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 5:01 pm to
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That’s the state average or is that what the state government is paying entry government legal employees? Doesn’t sound bad with Louisiana’s cost of living.


that is 100% not the starting pay for entry level attorneys working for the State of Louisiana
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 5:02 pm to
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Tulane is more prestigious
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 5:52 pm to
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that is 100% not the starting pay for entry level attorneys working for the State of Louisiana


Figures. What's the real number?
Posted by iron banks
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:16 pm to
My friend made bank out of Loyola so take that for what is is worth.
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:18 pm to
It's unranked. Is it SULC caliber?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:19 pm to
based on the employee level i think it's around $45k but i've heard of people getting offers under $40k
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:19 pm to
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Is it SULC caliber?

yes, at $50k/year or whatever
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:22 pm to
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yes, at $50k/year or whatever


Yikes. Cooley caliber?
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 6:42 pm to
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See, this is why LSU is the wrong answer to the question though. If a firm considers the top 10% of LSU students and the top 30% of Tulane students for a clerkship



Hmmmmm. No.
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