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re: Tuberville on inner city teachers: ‘I don’t know whether they can read and write’

Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:33 pm to
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Tuberville, whether you agree or not, hurt the GOP with these comments.


Whatever. The usual suspects would cry whatever "ism" anyway, regardless of who points out the truth.

The vast majority of teachers belong to unions and will vote Democrat. Look at how many of them behaved during and after Covid. That tells you all you need to know about how inner-city teachers care for their students.

And this doesn't even graze the most important issue: Culture and family rot.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94368 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:35 pm to
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Kinda racist but he does have a point


Not one person said anything about skin color.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
31540 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:35 pm to
His grammar is pretty fricking atrocious
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:37 pm to
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He brings up an important question but I’d like to know what qualifies Tuberville for his job.


Yeah. We need more career politicians and lawyers in Washington
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451312 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:37 pm to
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Yeah, you could drop these kids in the best schools in the country and it wouldn't make a big difference because their parents don't care.

Even if they do care, they aren't able to do much. After 2-3 generations of social promotion, you have people with the equivalent of a 6th or 7th grade education being the home guidance. There is a defined ceiling with that paradigm.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44126 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:37 pm to
Real Conversations aren't allowed in today's society
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19707 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:38 pm to
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He brings up an important question but I’d like to know what qualifies Tuberville for his job.



I can give you six reasons.

Posted by Downeast12
Member since Jun 2022
768 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:38 pm to
He makes valid points, but does he really think decreasing pay and benefits for teachers are going to bring out the best?

The reason we have so many undereducated and shitty teachers is due to the lack of pay and terrible teaching conditions in public schools. Why would anyone with an education want to teach in inner city schools?

No shite, you’re not going to get scholars taking those jobs.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28413 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:40 pm to
Teachers are not the main problem in the vast majority of educational shortcomings. It starts at home. From my secondhand experience of my wife working in inner-city schools, the teachers have been qualified to teach. Between shitty kids/parents and bureaucratic red tape, the teachers have no chance to single-handily perform a miracle.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
2066 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:41 pm to
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Democrats are dumbing down our kids on purpose


They both are baw. Politicians love uneducated voters
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:43 pm to
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The Constitution sets three qualifications for service in the U.S. Senate: age (at least thirty years of age); U.S. citizenship (at least nine years); and residency in the state a senator represents at time of election.

That is how he is qualified


Someone downvoted Constitutional qualifications. Tells you all you need to know about how far they’re willing to take this.
Posted by bengalfan50
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
2628 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:44 pm to
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He brings up an important question but I’d like to know what qualifies Tuberville for his job.

He was elected through our democratic process.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
32269 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:45 pm to
Biggest issue is watering down of standards. What the standard of education is in one area is completely different and dumbed down in another.

Everyone has a different set of standards to go by, but in the end all want equal opportunities. The end doesn’t come close to the journey to get there.
Posted by foosball
Member since Nov 2021
2211 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:48 pm to
He’s the part of the swamp Trump talked about. Blatant insider trading
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4065 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:51 pm to
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The COVID really brought it out how bad our schools are and how bad our teachers are, in the inner city. Most of them in the inner city, I don’t know how they got degrees,” Tuberville said. “I don’t know whether they can read and write. And they want a raise. They want less time to work, less time in school. It’s just, we’ve ruined work ethic in this country. We don’t work at it anymore. We push an easy life.” Tuberville cited a published report that 23 Baltimore City schools had no students who tested proficient in math. “If you can’t read and if you can’t write, you can’t live in a country like this and not have somebody help you make it through life, which is what a lot of this government wants,” Tuberville said.


To be honest, he should be very fortunate this is the case in Alabama. It’s the reason he got elected
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32007 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:51 pm to
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Teachers matter very little in this equation.

Family values and culture are the big variables.



Yes. It's the students. Period. High ranking schools have high ranking students.

What would happen if Baton Rouge High and McKinley High switched faculties?

Virtually nothing. McKinley wouldn't all of the sudden become a top school, and BRH wouldn't drop down. Because the students are smart and come from good families with high expectations.

This is a real recent headline from NOLA.com

Report: Black students most likely to attend worst public schools
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Black students are more than five times as likely to attend a D- or F-rated public school as White students, according to a state audit released Monday morning.

About 41% of Black students attend a school at the bottom of the grading scale compared to 8% of White children, a report by Legislative Auditor Mike Waguespack says.



No shite. They think there is some magic bullet that can solve these problems. Hire the right teachers, spend the right amount of money, have the right building, offer the right resources.

This is why political correctness is the scourge of society. It doesn't allow people to even discuss what the problems are. You get articles like the one above that totally miss the plot.

The joke headline that people quote: "Giant asteroid headed to Earth, black people most affected" is not a joke to them. They aren't serious people.
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281895 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:52 pm to
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Teachers are not the main problem in the vast majority of educational shortcomings. It starts at home. From my secondhand experience of my wife working in inner-city schools, the teachers have been qualified to teach. Between shitty kids/parents and bureaucratic red tape, the teachers have no chance to single-handily perform a miracle.


Individual teachers matter very little.

We spend too much on kids who's parents don't value education.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66281 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:55 pm to
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his seemingly-hyperbolic claim is probably closer to the truth than not.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32007 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:59 pm to
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Individual teachers matter very little.

We spend too much on kids who's parents don't value education.


The idea that you need a college degree to teach Kindergarten is ridiculous. You should be able to teach elementary school with a 2-year junior college degree. Teaching children has more to do with your personality and dedication that it does with some certificate you have.

There are teachers with masters degrees teaching preschool.
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:59 pm to
77% of black kids in America grow up in a single parent household.

That is why a huge percentage of them go to crappy schools compared to other races. They go to school with other black kids who have a non working mother or grandmother raising them.

Again. All attempts to blame racism for bad results are just lies to cover up for this social disaster in the black community.
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