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re: True or false: Violent, public, televised executions for convicted murderers
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:23 pm to Old Sarge
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:23 pm to Old Sarge
I have said for a long time we need to bring back public hanging. It is still a legal means of execution in some states.
The public display was for a reason. Criminals have a fear of the rope.
The public display was for a reason. Criminals have a fear of the rope.
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:27 pm to Old Sarge
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Where there are multiple witnesses or irrefutable video evidence
This is the only thing that will stop shootings in this country
True or false
False
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:31 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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he death penalty is a 100 percent deterrent for that particular person. They will never kill again, which should be the goal. We need to execute about 1,000 times more people than we currently do in a much more timely manner.
That sounds great right up until innocent people start getting put down due to inevitable negligence/corruption. Especially considering how easy it's going to get to frame someone via AI.
I don't trust the government to get such a program right, and neither should anyone else.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:58 pm to Old Sarge
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Violent, public, televised executions for convicted murderers
Been saying these should be offered via pay per view for years. Think they'd be highly popular.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:59 pm to Old Sarge
Regulated public executions would take the fight out of would be gangsters.
This world has gotten mean and there is no answer in sight.
Drastic times require drastic measures.
This world has gotten mean and there is no answer in sight.
Drastic times require drastic measures.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:06 pm to Old Sarge
quote:
This is the only thing that will stop shootings in this country
Totally, not any other solutions possible for gun violence at all.
This is why gun violence in Australia fell way off in the 90s, that’s when they famously started televising executions
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:42 pm to Old Sarge
I would rather see televised guillotine executions, firing squads, or the chair more than hangings
Posted on 9/26/23 at 9:44 pm to OchoDedos
It’s nice to see that the Night Shift understands what kind of justice this world needs
The dayshift kept talking about rehabilitating and understanding the poor criminals abusive life
The dayshift kept talking about rehabilitating and understanding the poor criminals abusive life
Posted on 9/27/23 at 5:30 am to bopper50
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Regulated public executions would take the fight out of would be gangsters.
Except there were public executions when the OG prohibition gangsters were running amok... and for reasons unknown, the murder rate fell out the bottom after the last public execution, in 1936. In case you really wanted to see how ineffective it was
Posted on 9/27/23 at 5:51 am to Old Sarge
I don't know whether televising executions would deter violent crime, but I do know that a lot of those who would tune in are rather deviant. It takes a "special" kind of person to willingly take time out of their day to watch the execution related to a crime in which they were not personally affected.
Public executions - but not televised? Possibly. I believe that public executions performed at the center of town or some central gathering point could have some effect. People would see it LIVE and in person. Even if you turn away, there is no escaping the reality of it.
Furthermore, executions should be carried out by one of two methods: hanging by the neck until dead, or firing squad. None of this "softly go to sleep" BS. (I may be agreeable to a third method of Old Testament stoning if the offense is heinous enough to warrant it.)
You also mentioned irrefutable video evidence. With the way things are going and the fact that "deep fake" video is getting extremely realistic and difficult to determine from an authentic video, I'm not so sure I'd want to go that route.
But, as has already been stated in this thread, there are those individuals who are of such a decrepit mind that no threat of punishment will deter them from committing acts of violence upon another person. These people don't believe they will be caught, and when they are caught they aren't sorry for the act committed, but rather are sorry they got caught and must face the consequences.
Yes, hang 'em high, but there's no need to televise it.
Public executions - but not televised? Possibly. I believe that public executions performed at the center of town or some central gathering point could have some effect. People would see it LIVE and in person. Even if you turn away, there is no escaping the reality of it.
Furthermore, executions should be carried out by one of two methods: hanging by the neck until dead, or firing squad. None of this "softly go to sleep" BS. (I may be agreeable to a third method of Old Testament stoning if the offense is heinous enough to warrant it.)
You also mentioned irrefutable video evidence. With the way things are going and the fact that "deep fake" video is getting extremely realistic and difficult to determine from an authentic video, I'm not so sure I'd want to go that route.
But, as has already been stated in this thread, there are those individuals who are of such a decrepit mind that no threat of punishment will deter them from committing acts of violence upon another person. These people don't believe they will be caught, and when they are caught they aren't sorry for the act committed, but rather are sorry they got caught and must face the consequences.
Yes, hang 'em high, but there's no need to televise it.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 5:59 am to Old Sarge
quote:
This is the only thing that will stop shootings in this country
It won't stop shite. With that said, I'd tune in like it was Saturday morning cartoons and I just got a brand new box of Kelloggs C-3POs. Let's get it.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:12 am to MoarKilometers
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Except there were public executions when the OG prohibition gangsters were running amok... and for reasons unknown, the murder rate fell out the bottom after the last public execution, in 1936. In case you really wanted to see how ineffective it was
This graph also shows that the current homicide rate is actually pretty low compared to the past 100 years. Of course back when it was above 10 per 100k people weren't browsing social media and there wasn't a national media pushing them as hard.
Fear mongering is a great divider.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:46 am to Old Sarge
People in this country sure are blood thirsty
Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:49 am to Powerman
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Sounds extremely stupid to be honest
Why?
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:08 am to Vidic
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People in this country sure are blood thirsty
The opposite, sick and tired of murder being commonplace
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:44 am to Old Sarge
Just make them disappear.
Send them to hell without any fanfair.
You don't have so many of our problems with violent crime against innocents in countries where, immediately after the trial, the convicted is taken down to a cold dark room in the prison and a bullet is delivered to the back of the head. Then the body is either cremated or thrown in a shallow, unmarked, grave.
Bad guys fear that. Being unceremoniously erased from existence.
Bad guys don't fear the thought of dying for what they believe to be a cause where they will be remembered as a bad arse or local folk hero.
What's his name, the crack head up in Minnesota, George Floyd ... he got a white carriage ride and a $40k monument for being a POS thug on fentenyl.
He went down in history as a hero ... understand?
Had he been put down, unceremoniously, when he took that pregnant lady hostage and put a gun to her belly .... well, none of the rest would habe happened.
Murderous evil Psychopaths and Sociopaths ... just erase them. Make them disappear.
Send them to hell without any fanfair.
You don't have so many of our problems with violent crime against innocents in countries where, immediately after the trial, the convicted is taken down to a cold dark room in the prison and a bullet is delivered to the back of the head. Then the body is either cremated or thrown in a shallow, unmarked, grave.
Bad guys fear that. Being unceremoniously erased from existence.
Bad guys don't fear the thought of dying for what they believe to be a cause where they will be remembered as a bad arse or local folk hero.
What's his name, the crack head up in Minnesota, George Floyd ... he got a white carriage ride and a $40k monument for being a POS thug on fentenyl.
He went down in history as a hero ... understand?
Had he been put down, unceremoniously, when he took that pregnant lady hostage and put a gun to her belly .... well, none of the rest would habe happened.
Murderous evil Psychopaths and Sociopaths ... just erase them. Make them disappear.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:55 am to Old Sarge
Well considering how many people said they would watch if, yes.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:19 am to brass2mouth
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You don’t want to hear it, but there is no statistical data to support this.
This. I did a research paper in college on the death penalty being used as a deterrent. I went in thinking I’d easily find evidence that it was. It was actually the opposite. It has a statistically zero effect on violent crime rates.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:22 am to scrooster
quote:such an easy solution. I can’t believe no one considered it before. Who do you trust to make the decision about who gets erased? Government?
Murderous evil Psychopaths and Sociopaths ... just erase them. Make them disappear.
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 8:23 am
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:52 am to Old Sarge
Simple, expedient justice would be a great deterrent.
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