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re: Truck gurus, 2019 Silverado

Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:57 pm to
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
21035 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:57 pm to
You just called a Chevy a truck?
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 12:04 am to
Wrong.

You mean every year they contract out diesels and then slap their name on them.

They've had diesels built by Detroit, Isuzu and even Opel. The last and only time GM tried to build their own diesel in house it was such a spectacular failure they never did it again. That was in the 80s.

I did read that they just tooled up this year to build their own diesels in house. We'll see how that experiment goes.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 8:06 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 7:59 am to
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It's all horsehit gaming of the EPA fuel test. In the real world this turbo 4 will probably not bet much better mileage than the V8s, and it'll be a stressed motor


I always track my fuel mileage in my six-cylinder C-Class and I did the same when I had the turbo 4 cylinder C-Class. From what I remember, the four banger got about an extra 2 miles to the gallon on the highway. My 6 cylinder gets between 28 and 31 on the highway and the four banger got between 29 and 33.

That extra 2 miles to the gallon on the highway only equates to about an extra $75 in savings on gas per year. Definitely not worth the difference in driveability not to mention the point you made about a turbo 4 being a stressed motor. Anytime you use forced induction youre going to reduce the life of the engine, not to mention forced induction violates the KISS principle. Turbos and their Associated parts, are just one more system to fail on you.

I couldn't tell you about City mileage because I don't track City mileage. There are too many variables.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:06 am to
Your 6 cylinder is naturally aspirated? How much power does it make?
Posted by bigrob385series
B. Aura
Member since May 2014
2636 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:09 am to
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 did read that they just tooled up this year to build their own diesels in house. We'll see how that experiment goes.
what's next?aluminum body panels?lol
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50033 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Just get a Tacoma


Why would I do that? The Colorado beats the Toyota in most areas.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50033 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:23 am to
quote:

You just called a Chevy a truck?



Yes
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
23409 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:31 am to
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It comes with a 2.7 liter turbo 4 cylinder engine.



I have no experience with the Silverado but I have a F150 Ecoboost which uses turbo boost but it is a 6 cyl 3.5L engine. I would be a little concerned with the 4 cyl design. I also would be wary if this model year 1 for this with any manufacturer especially GM.

My Ecoboost has plenty of road speed and can pull a trailer with no problem or engine strain. I get about 22mpg on 40 mile commute to work mostly. Towing a trailer it drops to about 12 mpg. I see Ford has a 4 cyl 2.7L Ecoboost engine but I am not familiar with it.

Not to be a Ford homer... I have owned GMC's in the past and they are great trucks too. Just happen to have the Ford now. Hope this helps
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 8:33 am
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50033 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:53 am to
quote:


I have no experience with the Silverado but I have a F150 Ecoboost which uses turbo boost but it is a 6 cyl 3.5L engine. I would be a little concerned with the 4 cyl design. I also would be wary if this model year 1 for this with any manufacturer especially GM.

My Ecoboost has plenty of road speed and can pull a trailer with no problem or engine strain. I get about 22mpg on 40 mile commute to work mostly. Towing a trailer it drops to about 12 mpg. I see Ford has a 4 cyl 2.7L Ecoboost engine but I am not familiar with it.

Not to be a Ford homer... I have owned GMC's in the past and they are great trucks too. Just happen to have the Ford now. Hope this helps



I was just curious what others thought. I would never buy a full size truck with a 4 cylinder. I am the same as you I am not loyal to any one brand. I have owned ford, chevy and dodge at one time or another. Currently have a Silverado with the 5.3 and I love it. As I said earlier I recently had a 2018 Colorado LT for a few days and that thing is a dream to drive and has a hell of a lot more power than I every would have imagined.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:54 am to
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Chevy owners have been ragging on the ecoboost engines for years. Now they are imitating it


Nah, the Chevy will be reliable
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175702 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:55 am to
quote:

It's kind of funny imo. Chevy owners have been ragging on the ecoboost engines for years. Now they are imitating it


Yeah Chevy owners are up late at night drawing up engineering designs for the new engines
Posted by Libertariantiger
Member since Nov 2012
981 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:59 am to
My mom got a GMC Acadia with the turbo 4 and it is fine in that. She had 2 olderr kids and 4 adults in it and it had lots of spunk. I was concerned until I drove it, seems fine to me.
I was more concerned after I drove it with the shut off. I thought it killed too quickly with that new feature.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85538 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:17 am to
I would’ve rather a turbo V6 like ford did.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:19 am to
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. It replaces it with -- get this -- a 2.7-liter turbocharged 4-cylinder engine that produces 310 horsepower and 348 pound-feet of torque


That's about as much output as V8s had 12 years ago.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Umm.....every year they make diesels


And they don't absolutely suck like Ford's 6.0L and 6.4L diesels.

Navistar is going to start using Duramax diesels in their medium duty trucks this year.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 9:25 am
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50033 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:27 am to
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I was more concerned after I drove it with the shut off. I thought it killed too quickly with that new feature.




Shut off?
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:28 am to
Got a 2007 Tahoe with 302K on it. 5.3 litre. Just put an oil pump on it and a timing chain and went thru the tranny. All preventative items. Although trans was obviously tired. Oil pressure jumped right back to where it was off the showroom so that was needed. Timing chain that came of was incredibly new with zero wear. Got to rebuild front end soon as my BIL gets back from Virginia in it where he went to a race and needed the room. Wife just drove it to Indiana to visit. Uses a qt between changes but about all 5.3's do. Best V-8 ever made. Dash repaired and driver's seat leather had to be repaired in one spot. GPS has had a little stuff wrong. Replaced gen/alt, batteries, starter and a hundred or so bulbs and both front door handles. Brake jobs, shox plus other front end maint and it been hit on all corners but it is a boy dog.

Just sold my 2010 Silverado with 126K miles. Serviced it regularly but NEVER put it in the shop for ANYTHING except some front end repair and shox and bulbs and a brake job. The brakes started squealing once but it was dust underneath from running on a rough, dirt track looking at real estate. It started using just under qt between changes at around 90K.

Bad luck with Ford, 50/50 with Ram. F150 would take spells of not turning over, just wouldn't start and at the worst of times. And it quit. After driving the Silverado's it also seemed very clumsy with handling and was not responsive like Chevy. Almost sluggish. Had the small block V-8.

Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
11743 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:34 am to
My 05 Z71 with a 5.3 has 187k miles and no issues except an O2 sensor and a knock sensor. At least once a week someone asks me if I would be interested in selling it and I just laugh. It may be a touch "underpowered" by today's standards but its reliable and pulls my boat just fine.
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
Check my style out
Member since Aug 2004
7262 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:56 am to
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Timing chain that came of was incredibly new with zero wear.


Isnt this an item that never needs to be replaced?
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:57 am to
quote:

Your 6 cylinder is naturally aspirated? How much power does it make?


3.0L

228hp @ 6000

221 lb-ft @ 2500-5000

Geared low. Like most German builds + volvo
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