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Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:08 am to Red Stick Tigress
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17 y.o. boys aren't going to listen to other 17 y.o. boys.
My son would have apologized and gotten the hell out of the tent when asked. Then again, he doesn’t have a primitive caveman brain.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:10 am to Red Stick Tigress
I always tell my son this bit of wisdom. “Son, if someone is bothering your group don’t say anything because they may plunge a knife into your heart and message board posters would say it’s your fault.”
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:10 am to Red Stick Tigress
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I stated that the Metcalf kid should have gotten assistance from an adult because 17 y.o. boys aren't going to listen to other 17 y.o. boys.
Here's a couple RST highlights from the last few days:
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There are many young men of different ethnicities that are violent in different areas.
Take your pick: Mass murders, rape, child porn... the list goes on.
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Again, it is proven that male brains don't mature until 27+ years of age.
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To the low IQ poster: I am MENSA smart.
You can agree to disagree and that's where it should end.
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Racist much?
Most high school boys are immature. (I should know, I dated/hung out with enough of them.)
Proven fact that male brains mature slower than their female counterparts. Pull out your AMA Journals and research adolescent male behavior. It isn't skin color specific.
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Don't frick with people's stuff and don't put your hands on anyone without their consent.
Wrong any way you look at it
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I am almost certain that 17 y.o. Scruffy wouldn't take direction from another person that age. You take direction from adults, not children.
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The person who made that post is acting like it was all planned out. I don't believe it was.
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Gee, today's the school track meet. Let's go stab someone.
No one knows what was in KA's head but KA and HM stated that he was first to tell KA to leave.
As stated before, there are lots of conflicting statements.
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You don't know if he carried that knife all the time or just that day. He was a captain of his school team with a 3.7 GPA according to what I have read. He also is a smaller build than other football players. Maybe he was bullied and felt the need to carry a knife or maybe he is just another punk. There is a lot of misinformation and ugly out on the www.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 11:20 am
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:11 am to teke184
This is such an open and shut case, every lawyer that I have watched has basically said the defense didn't do much of anything because they didn't have anything
Anything but a conviction would be a massive shock and a result of jury nullification
Anything but a conviction would be a massive shock and a result of jury nullification
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:11 am to Red Stick Tigress
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Obviously you haven't dealt with adolescent boys in a group situation.
And 98% of us on this board have been the “adolescent boys in a group situation”.
Oddly enough none of us have stabbed an innocent kid in the chest for no reason
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 11:13 am
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:11 am to Witty_Username
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Wirskye then explained four reasons why the defense's self-defense theory does not apply: provocation, force disparity, reasonable belief, and immediate necessity. He explained that "you don't get to provoke someone," and that "you can't meet force (a shove) with deadly force (with a stab)."
I’ve been beating this drum throughout the thread. His own words of touch me and find out while armed with a concealed knife are what is going to convict him.
Immediately necessity is an interesting argument because it’s mentioned under the deadly force statues but it’s not defined. The best way I can think of describing it is you’re under attack in such a manner that you risk severe harm or death and then reach for your weapon to defend yourself. In this case though this was a verbal altercation up until the last moment which the state clearly prohibits the use of deadly force. The problem for KA is that he armed himself at some point during the verbal argument by possessing and gripping the weapon. Legally that made him the aggressor because he introduced the weapon into the situation. Thus the force disparity
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 11:32 am
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:19 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:21 am to Proximo
quote:That little factoid didn't seem to enter her big MENSA brain.
And 98% of us on this board have been the “adolescent boys in a group situation”.
Oddly enough none of us have stabbed an innocent kid in the chest for no reason
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:24 am to Kcrad
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That little factoid didn't seem to enter her big MENSA brain.
Feminists HATE young men already, and the idea that we would dare train young men to be leaders, especially young WHITE men, pisses them off more than anything you can imagine.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:26 am to SludgeFactory
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:27 am to The Pirate King
quote:Possibly. I was on a Murder One jury back in the late 70's in Caddo Parish. The guy was guilty as sin. Stabbed and killed his own aunt to steal a few jars of coins, then stole her car and was pulled over for a non-working brake light. Cops saw the jars of money, and a bloody blanket and on search with a warrant, found the knife.
I'd bet there's at least one soft-hearted person on the jury that holds things up because of his demographics.
Anyway, one juror could not vote guilty. He said it was because he couldn't send someone to the death row. It took three days and it was deadlocked at 11-1. After the judge called us back in, he made it clear that if we could not reach a murder one verdict, we would also have to consider if the defendant was guilty of second degree murder, which, at that time, carried an automatic sentence of life w/o parole. This satisfied that a-hole, but afterwards we learned that the juror could have been impeached by the jury foreman and removed after questioning by the judge for the charge of perjury because he lied on the stand that he could vote guilty which 'could' mean that the death penalty was on the table. That would have seated one of the three alternate jurors and likely resulted in a conviction of murder one. Instead, we all voted for second degree murder, agreeing that the state needed to bring closure to this for the family.
After the trial was over, and the defendant taken away, before the judge dismissed us, he both thanked and admonished the jury for not reaching a guilty verdict on murder one. What they could not show or discuss during the trial was that the defendant had served a total of 17 years in jail, seven tears for armed robbery where he shot and injured a man, and ten years for manslaughter for killing a man with a broken beer bottle in a bar fight, plus numerous other stints in jail for criminal trespassing, assault with a deadly weapon and 8 months in juvenile detention for assaulting a teacher.
The a-hole that couldn't vote guilty was someone my company did business with and who later told me that if he'd known all that he would have changed his mind. I told him he shouldn't even have been on the jury.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:28 am to Dragula
Do we know if Karmelo's statement to the police officer about "not alleged, I did it" was brought up during trial?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:29 am to JoeyP239
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excessive self defense.
I am not a lawyer, however I have never heard of excessive self defense. Is this an actual term used?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:30 am to Indefatigable
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The better ones also focus their case not on the client or their innocence but on ensuring the State meets its burden. Or at least that’s how they mentally convince themselves to do it.
Yeah my professor had Chaney mason and Jose biaz come in to talk to my class, and this was like 2 months afters the Casey Anthony trial. And that’s pretty much how they explained defending her. Was pretty wild to listen to say the least.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:31 am to Dragula
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Now, we wait
Hopefully there aren't any OT Moderates or MENSA members on the jury that will let the murderer walk.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:34 am to Red Stick Tigress
1) I was that adolescent boy once upon a time. My parents taught me right and wrong and how to walk away from conflict
2) I have a 20 year old step son who I've raised since he was 6. He ran track, played football and basketball at the 5A level in LA. Surprisingly even when things got heated on the court he and his team mates would walk away.
Why do you feel the need to justify this behavior? It's mind boggling
2) I have a 20 year old step son who I've raised since he was 6. He ran track, played football and basketball at the 5A level in LA. Surprisingly even when things got heated on the court he and his team mates would walk away.
Why do you feel the need to justify this behavior? It's mind boggling
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:34 am to Dragula
Can they return a 2nd degree murder charge or was this tried as 1st? Or does that even matter in Texas for a Murder 2
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 11:34 am
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:47 am to TigerBear1971
The jury instructions for murder seem damning. I don't see any way this isn't a quick murder verdict.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:49 am to Red Stick Tigress
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Stabbing wasn't the answer. Neither was how AM handled it. Don't frick with people's stuff and don't put your hands on anyone without their consent.
Wait did you just compare a slight push if it happened with a full blown stabbing? What the hell is wrong with you.
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