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re: Tragic story out of WI over the holiday weekend - 3 children drown in boating accident
Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:45 pm to WG_Dawg
Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:45 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:The bow or the boat or the front of the boat is built to take the hit from the waves most effectively
I am most certainly NOT an experienced boater, and have no training and epxerience. So can someone dumb it down for me why going straihgt into the wind is the best call? I'm sure there is a valid reason for it, I'm not second guessing this guys' actions. I simply don't know.
a design that man has understood since we've been on water
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 3:21 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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potentially ballast full of water
Awful story. I hope he also didn’t have lead/steel shot bags in there. When I had my Wakesetter I had shot bags and lead plates scattered all over the boat. If it ever went down and they found the additional ballast after recovering it…..looking back, it was pretty reckless.
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 3:45 pm to Chucktown_Badger
That sounds harrowing. Everyone wore the life jackets but the kids clearly rolled with the capsized boat and became lodge between the deck and the pressing water pressure. It probably sank so fast no person could physically rescue them quickly. As a parent, I can't imagine the pain, fear, and pure total helpless you'd feel floating safely in the water while your kids died.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 3:47 pm to DR93Berlin
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I hope he also didn’t have lead/steel shot bags in there. When I had my Wakesetter I had shot bags and lead plates scattered all over the boat. If it ever went down and they found the additional ballast after recovering it
In a half million dollar wake boat with 10 people, and knowing the type of people who can afford that lake, I would say that's highly unlikely it was the case. Those boats are very good at doing what they're designed to do when it comes to creating (really annoying/damaging) wakes.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 3:50 pm to Trauma14
That dad/captain will never be the same. The "what if's" will haunt him forever.
It's only 3 miles wide. Reaching a shore if they had left the second that kicked up wouldn't have been a problem...though the boat still likely would've swamped.
It's only 3 miles wide. Reaching a shore if they had left the second that kicked up wouldn't have been a problem...though the boat still likely would've swamped.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 3:52 pm to Chucktown_Badger
The owner of the boat was driving and was a very experienced and trained captain. He did everything he was supposed to, drove head into the wind rather than parallel to it. Because the storm was so bad, the boat took on a lot of water after the first big wave and then the 2nd one is the one that got it. A very terrible story for someone that did everything correctly.
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Posted on 7/7/26 at 3:57 pm to Chucktown_Badger
I wouldnt have let my kids get trapped in the boat
Posted on 7/7/26 at 4:02 pm to Strannix
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I wouldnt have let my kids get trapped in the boat
So you're suggesting the adults there "let" this happen? Yikes.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 4:17 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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wake boat with 10 people
How often are you carrying 10 people? Probably only on the weekends. More likely it’s 2-4 if they’re wakeboarding or surfing during the week. And the lead/steel stays where it is - it’s a pain to move it on/off and its location is dialed-in. People are always chasing a bigger, badder wake. But then again, I know people who have those kind of boats and only pull a tube.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 4:20 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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So you're suggesting the adults there "let" this happen? Yikes.
I wouldnt have let my children inside a boat that could have sank. I would have drowned with them or had them tied to me.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 4:24 pm to WG_Dawg
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I am most certainly NOT an experienced boater, and have no training and epxerience. So can someone dumb it down for me why going straihgt into the wind is the best call?
Technically, you should very rarely go straight into the waves, because coming straight down the back slope can cause the boat to dive right under the water. Depending on the shape and frequency of the waves hitting them at about 30 to 40 degrees is what you want to do.
One of the last boats I would want to be in during nautical seas is a ski boat.
It has just about everything going against it:
Low bow
Open cockpit
direct drive engine that makes it hard to lift the bow under power
short freeboard
flat bottom
Posted on 7/7/26 at 5:27 pm to Strannix
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I wouldnt have let my children inside a boat that could have sank
So you'd never let your kids go in a boat? All boats can sink.
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I would have drowned with them or had them tied to me.
Tie three kids to yourself in a boat with ten people, all of whom are moving around. Great idea
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 7/7/26 at 5:29 pm to Obtuse1
quote:Did not know the specifics on this type of boat but yeah this would've fricked them
flat bottom
very tragic
Posted on 7/7/26 at 5:39 pm to OWLFAN86
Lake boats a not very sea worthy, especially if this was a wake boat. They are nice but made for calm conditions. Very easy to capsize, especially with that load. Just a freak of a storm on a very small lake.
Being on a lake can be worse than in the gulf for this type of weather. You can dodge the heavy cells on radar all day unless it’s frontal and then I don’t go out.
Being on a lake can be worse than in the gulf for this type of weather. You can dodge the heavy cells on radar all day unless it’s frontal and then I don’t go out.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 6:53 pm to Obtuse1
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Low bow Open cockpit direct drive engine that makes it hard to lift the bow under power short freeboard flat bottom
It’s a v drive. Engine is in the rear, not the middle. The freeboard on the G25 (incorrectly reported as a P25) is substantial for a wake boat.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 7:08 pm to Chucktown_Badger
I need to start watching the local news again. (I use a GPS Spoofer to stream Chicago's locals.) For those that don't know, this is roughly an hour NNW of the Chicago suburbs. Most of that "doubling" of population comes from Illinois. It's full of upper middle-upper class vacationers who don't want to drive up to Door County and think the Dells is trashy.
The waves up there are no joke. I grew up driving charter fishing boats out onto Lake Michigan during the summer. When we didn't have paid charters I'd drive the boat wide open until we got close to our fishing spot. The captain was an ex-nuclear sub captain and I got my arse kicked for treating it like a speed boat going into 10' waves a time or two. Never did it again. Unlike my dumb arse, these people did nearly everything right yet tragedy still found them. I do wonder why they couldn't get to safe harbor/refugee or at a minimum have the kids ready to abandon ship when it got rough. It sounds like they put them down under the bow and they got trapped there. They had life jackets on and their chances would've been better up top. You can take comfort that having such a horrible combination of factors aligned means that they are now with God.
The waves up there are no joke. I grew up driving charter fishing boats out onto Lake Michigan during the summer. When we didn't have paid charters I'd drive the boat wide open until we got close to our fishing spot. The captain was an ex-nuclear sub captain and I got my arse kicked for treating it like a speed boat going into 10' waves a time or two. Never did it again. Unlike my dumb arse, these people did nearly everything right yet tragedy still found them. I do wonder why they couldn't get to safe harbor/refugee or at a minimum have the kids ready to abandon ship when it got rough. It sounds like they put them down under the bow and they got trapped there. They had life jackets on and their chances would've been better up top. You can take comfort that having such a horrible combination of factors aligned means that they are now with God.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 7:54 pm to Chucktown_Badger
The lake is wealthy?
Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:22 pm to Chucktown_Badger
I was in that storm on another lake 100 miles east or so. It came out of nowhere, was just a tiny blip on the iphone weather app. We decided to get out of the rain and went into the house.
All of the sudden some of the strongest wind I've seen on the great lakes iin five-plus years kicked up out of nowhere and sent a bunch of branches crashing. A bunch of pleasure boast scrambled for the harbor 30 miles away. I though they were insane. This is the time you let insurance buy you a new boat instead of scrambling to save your 2020 Chris Craft and drowning in the process.
Great lakes do not play around, they play for keeps.
All of the sudden some of the strongest wind I've seen on the great lakes iin five-plus years kicked up out of nowhere and sent a bunch of branches crashing. A bunch of pleasure boast scrambled for the harbor 30 miles away. I though they were insane. This is the time you let insurance buy you a new boat instead of scrambling to save your 2020 Chris Craft and drowning in the process.
Great lakes do not play around, they play for keeps.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 8:26 pm to Lou Loomis
quote:Well that is well off my first ex wife was from Chicago and when we were up during summers, we would always make a run up to the Lakes or the Dells .
The lake is wealthy?
Her dad was a banker that loved to display his wealth, never went to this lake but Ive been close. It's ritzy Chicago money. like Newport is to new york
kinda
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