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re: Toyota issues recall, stop sale on 100,000 Tundra pickup trucks due to engine failures
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:05 am to BuckyCheese
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:05 am to BuckyCheese
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Get a Silverado with the straight 6 diesel then.
This. Just got mine on Tuesday, averaging an easy 25 MPG so far in mixed driving. Got 34 on the way to work this morning.
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:15 am to BuckyCheese
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Get a Silverado with the straight 6 diesel then.
These are turning out to be awesome motors. Diesels require more maintenance and higher upfront costs, but the fuel economy and power output benefits are incredible.
But you know they will be outlawed or regulated out of production within 5-6 years. The feds hate diesel.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:30 am to fallguy_1978
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I'll probably drive my current F150 until it falls apart. It's been a solid truck for me for 7 years. I'm not willing to spend more than 30 something on a vehicle. They just aren't worth any more than that to me.
Same here. My truck has around 61-62,000 on it right now. Hopefully it will last me several years.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:36 am to GeauxZone90
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I hope Toyota tanks until they bring back the v8 and v6
CAFE standards, baw. Blame the FedGov, not Toyota, for the turbo 4 and 6 cylinders.
Meanwhile, I'll be over here rocking the 18 year old naturally aspirated 2UZ.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:54 am to member12
I believe the resell value of modern trucks isn't going to be anything like the past. Might take a while for people to fully realize the maintenance costs on a turbo charged 10speed truck will be wayyy more than expected. Not going to make much sense to pay 10k for a truck that is going to need $20k in repairs over the next 5 years. This goes for all manus.
Maybe with the shear number of vehicles needing major repairs the free market will be able to come up with affordable repair options. Hopefully anyway.
Maybe with the shear number of vehicles needing major repairs the free market will be able to come up with affordable repair options. Hopefully anyway.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:57 am to member12
Am considering buying a Toyota Signia in a year. Maybe a Lexus. I’ve had so much luck with Honda/ Acura- I want to see where this goes.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:13 am to Lsupimp
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Maybe a Lexus.
Can't recommend this strongly enough. I've had two that I passed down to my kids (both running like champs with over 200K) and am still driving my 2002 GS300. You'll get rid of it eventually because you want something new, not because it needs to be replaced.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:15 am to TigahTeeth
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My 2013 still running like a champ!
Same. It’s a mule.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:29 am to kywildcatfanone
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Toyota is certainly having some issues with the Tundra. Boeing is indeed lost.
Tundra, Lexus LX, Lexus LS, Sequioa....they are all having major issues and they were largely dismissed or buried for several years until it got too big to ignore (Boeing style). I can understand that for a first year model, but they are seeing it in engines whose design has been around for 4-5 years now.
This is not like Toyota to let issues like that fester for so long. These kind of issues could be overlooked if the design or build quality was at least on par with the competitors, but it just isn't. Toyota has never really been great at doing anything but bland, but at least their designs were practical, convenient, and usually easy to service. That's far, far from the case with their newer full sized lineup. It's so bad that I'm wondering if the pandemic lockdowns of 2020 disrupted some of the late stage design decisions at the company. It does feel like it's 9/10ths baked and definitely not Toyota's usual effort.
Look under the hood of the new Tundra if you get a chance. Imagine having to change those turbos out. Notice what you'd have to take apart or remove just to get to the turbochargers way in the back. They went full on BMW/Jaguar with the spaghetti of mess under the hood. They were not thinking of how people will keep these things running years down the line.
It's kind of nuts because the new Tundra probably has the biggest engine compartment of any consumer Toyota to date and likely the largest of any vehicle with that V35A engine. But everything is so incredibly crammed in there and placement of some of those parts is very un-Toyota like.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:59 am to member12
Thank your federal government. No one was clamoring for turbo-sixes. This is 1000% to meet federal regulations.
You can't have your V8 anymore.
To be fair, you can still get a V8 in Ford and Chevy. Though I wonder how, and for how long.
Pretty sure RAM is going turbo 6 only too, right?
You can't have your V8 anymore.
To be fair, you can still get a V8 in Ford and Chevy. Though I wonder how, and for how long.
Pretty sure RAM is going turbo 6 only too, right?
This post was edited on 5/31/24 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 5/31/24 at 12:46 pm to Grievous Angel
Why thank the government?
Is there some regulation that prevents Toyota from properly cleaning the blocks after casting and machining?
Toyota fricked up. It's ok to admit it.
Is there some regulation that prevents Toyota from properly cleaning the blocks after casting and machining?
Toyota fricked up. It's ok to admit it.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 1:06 pm to dewster
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Get a Silverado with the straight 6 diesel then.
These are turning out to be awesome motors.
They're quiet as well. Stood next to one the other day and could barely tell it was a diesel.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 1:11 pm to GeauxTigers123
Ya about that.. We have been trying to reach you regarding your vehicle's extended warranty.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 1:24 pm to BuckyCheese
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Why thank the government?
If not for them the iForce V8 would still be a thing.
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Is there some regulation that prevents Toyota from properly cleaning the blocks after casting and machining?
Toyota fricked up. It's ok to admit it.
Perfectly fine point. Still, even if they'd done that (clean the blocks), these are NOT going to hold up like a naturally aspirated V8.
There are no free lunches when it comes to displacment.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 1:26 pm to concrete_tiger
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or a severe lack of power that caused them to dump them.
Hilarious considering ford ecoboosts have more power than a Tundra could ever dream of
Posted on 5/31/24 at 1:30 pm to texag7
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Hilarious considering ford ecoboosts have more power than a Tundra could ever dream of
It should since US taxpayers subsidized the ecoboost development.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 1:31 pm to texag7
The weird part is that the recall is for the Lexus LX and Tundra pickup. The engines are the same configuration but the LX engine is made in Japan. The Tundra engine is made in the US.
How is it a manufacturing defect involving debris if it impacts engines from multiple plants? It’s possible but it’s very unlikely.
This might be a design problem. Which means a real permanent fix is not happening very quickly.
How is it a manufacturing defect involving debris if it impacts engines from multiple plants? It’s possible but it’s very unlikely.
This might be a design problem. Which means a real permanent fix is not happening very quickly.
This post was edited on 5/31/24 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 5/31/24 at 1:32 pm to MoisterOyster
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Ya about that.. We have been trying to reach you regarding your vehicle's extended warranty.
I bought it through Toyota. I know many are against warranties, but I figured I would go for it being the first year of a new motor.
Haven't had any trouble at over 20k miles. Driving a lot so I will drive it up to 5 years 100k miles and then figure out if I want to sell or keep it. Not really worried overall. Enjoying the truck.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 1:42 pm to dewster
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How is it a manufacturing defect involving debris if it impacts engines from multiple plants? It’s possible but it’s very unlikely.
Probably a process failure with cleaning the blocks. Navistar had a similar issue with the sand in their cast blocks in the 6.0s.
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