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Toyota is quietly pushing Congress to slow the shift to electric vehicles

Posted on 7/26/21 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Street Hawk
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 8:54 pm
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The US is slowing moving toward adopting policies that would put more electric vehicles on the road, but for Toyota, it’s not slow enough. The Japanese automaker, which is the largest car company in the world, has been quietly lobbying policymakers in Washington, DC to resist the urge to transition to an all-electric future — partly because Toyota is lagging behind the rest of industry in making that transition itself.

According to The New York Times, a top Toyota executive has met with congressional leaders behind closed doors in recent weeks to advocate against the Biden administration’s plans to spend billions of dollars to incentivize the shift to EVs. The executive, Chris Reynolds, has argued that hybrids, like the Toyota Prius, as well as hydrogen-powered fuel cell vehicles should also be in the mix.

In addition, Toyota is also pushing back against EV-friendly policy through the auto industry’s main DC-based lobbying group, the Alliance for Automotive Innovation. The group, which represents the major car companies and their suppliers and is chaired by Reynolds, has been arguing against the Biden administration’s plan to adopt the so-called California compromise as its official position, the Times reports.


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But that doesn’t hide the fact that Toyota has fallen far behind its competitors, appearing content to rest on its laurels while the rest of the industry has lapped it several times. Companies like Nissan, General Motors, and Volkswagen have been selling pure battery-electric vehicles for years, while also revealing their plans to phase out gas cars completely. And Toyota’s failure to embrace EVs is not a new concept; The New York Times noted as much in this article from 2009.

Toyota’s argument that hybrids and fuel-cell vehicles should also be included in the conversation is not a bad one. Hybrid vehicles in particular are an important stepping stone to the wider adoption of EVs, especially as the charging infrastructure is still in its infancy.

But that argument might carry more weight if the automaker’s track record on fuel economy was actually, well, good. According to the EPA, Toyota has slipped in its ranking in fuel efficiency across its entire fleet, going from an industry leader to near the bottom with GM and Ford. This comes as the company has pushed the sale of huge gas-guzzling trucks and SUVs, which tend to command a larger profit than smaller sedans and hatchbacks.

The official automaker of the poliboard was an early adopter of electrified vehicles but has since fallen behind
Posted by PrimetimeDaBoss
Swag City, USA
Member since Oct 2008
7144 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 8:55 pm to
Sucks to suck
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66823 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 8:59 pm to
The Verge ehhh?

for those unaware: The Verge is partnered with Vox Media, making them the left’s version of OAN or Newsmax.
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 9:04 pm
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12177 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:00 pm to
Toyota should be lobbying China.

China is the decision maker here.

Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21315 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:00 pm to
Toyota seemingly hates updating their cars because they have models that just work and people love. They don’t fall into the trap of fricking up a good thing just because they have executives that feel like they need to justify their own existence by changing things up for no reason
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4780 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:02 pm to
EVs aren’t about saving the planet. They’re all about you having to finance $10,000 in batteries every five years. A constant payment once you pay your car off.
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
5147 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:03 pm to
Based Japanese engineers.

The others have EVs that are so good government has to force people to buy them.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69301 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:03 pm to
The govt should not be using tax dollars to “advance” certain industries and technologies.

The market needs to be the vehicle for change
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:05 pm to
12 years ago I would have thought you were crazy if you said that in 2021 Toyota would be behind most major auto companies when it comes to full-electric vehicles. They had the Prius.

Basically, they'll beat Dodge and that's it?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66823 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:06 pm to
me suspects toyota will be just fine regardless of being behind a few years in the EV department.
Posted by adamau
Member since Oct 2020
3499 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:06 pm to
Already started the push to all Toyota and it will continue and be set in stone as long as they keep on keeping on
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
1815 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:07 pm to
Some of the newer hybrid technology is great. We shouldn’t eliminate it.
Posted by NoBoDawg
Member since Feb 2014
1566 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:07 pm to
Who wrote this BS article?!? Toyota never rests on its “laurels” , they just understand that fully embracing EV’s & the ginormous infrastructure that has to go along with it is way too ambitious. Plus, what country owns most of the lithium mines?!
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 9:09 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:08 pm to
EV is about fattening the right pockets
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

The govt should not be using tax dollars to “advance” certain industries and technologies.

The market needs to be the vehicle for change


Do you think tax credits to the oil industry should be eliminated? Film tax credits? Economic development tax credits?

How about rockets? The electrical grid?
Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
2386 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:09 pm to
They had way better cars that sell like hot cakes. Profitable hot cakes. Cash cows. Why would they try to attract first adopters of electric other than to pander with the Prius until they really need to?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31884 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:10 pm to
My next vehicle will be a Toyota. I made the mistake of going away from them this past buy because of mpg and some interior upgrades. Have regretted it.

Not falling into the EV hole is yet another plus in Toyota’s column.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66823 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:10 pm to
Toyota literally wrote the books on lean manufacturing. look it up. if they need to get a product to their consumer more efficiently, believe me, they can find that gear a lot faster than the American automobile manufacturers. This article is fricking silly.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17709 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:11 pm to
I don’t wNt to admit that I have ever pissed myself laughing but I just did reading this shite
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Toyota has fallen far behind its competitors, appearing content to rest on its laurels while the rest of the industry has lapped it several times. Companies like Nissan,

Whoever wrote this garbage needs to literally have their hands cut off so they never write again
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6550 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:12 pm to
A corporation lobbying government to stop the government from giving tax money to another lobby.

I think I’ll side with Toyota here.
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