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re: Touring West Point today as my boy considers here and Annapolis
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:27 am to BoatSchoolTiger
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:27 am to BoatSchoolTiger
quote:How does being an athlete help still? Because I was a solid student, but def not Academy worthy (3.6 and 30 ACT) and was setup to get in.
I volunteer as an admissions counselor for USNA. All nominating sources that I have investigated bring in volunteers to evaluate and interview nomination candidates. The age of knowing your congressman to get your nomination is long gone.
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:29 am to lsupride87
If it's like most other elite schools, the athletic dept has a certain number of slots they can use.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:32 am to Jim Rockford
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If it's like most other elite schools
there are different rules/treatment for athletes
can't say that's the way it is currently but a lot of guys I work with are also former academy athletesPosted on 1/15/19 at 10:51 am to LSU1SLU
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Not trying to disrespect at all but that that is literally every college in America’s pitch. And I’m sure regular colleges open up just as many doors if you look in the right places.
If you do well at any college it opens doors. I know a ULL graduate who got into Harvard Law. But an elite school gives you more and better connections. You can get a Wall Street job right out of an SEC school, but you'll probably be the only one in your Goldman Sachs training class full of Biffs and Tripps from Wharton.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:53 am to The Pirate King
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I had a buddy that did West Point and got a pretty sweet gig here in the states after graduation for his mandatory service.
One of the cooler West Point perks is an exchange year at the Sorbonne.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:56 am to Ag Zwin
I’ve been to Annapolis. My great uncle graduated from the Naval Academy.
Does he know what he wants to do in terms of which service academy and major?
Does he know what he wants to do in terms of which service academy and major?
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:56 am to Mo Jeaux
I had absolutely no connections and got in.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 1:15 pm to 777Tiger
quote:
I volunteer as an admissions counselor for USNA
ret points?
I do get some extra points from it. But still so early that it is not a thought for me.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 1:19 pm to lsupride87
quote:
How does being an athlete help still? Because I was a solid student, but def not Academy worthy (3.6 and 30 ACT) and was setup to get in.
A couple things here:
Define: "setup to get in"
Being an athlete helps immensely! If you are recruited for a top 3 sport you go through another application process and do not even talk to an applications counselor (Blue and Gold Officer). If you are talented but not recruit worthy and able to stand on your own as a good candidate the coach can vouch for you to the admissions board.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 2:22 pm to Ag Zwin
Go to Annapolis since WP has apparently been taken over by SJW cucks.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 3:26 pm to Ag Zwin
Take it for what it’s worth, as a naval officer, go to a traditional school then OCS. If you go the academy route there are no guarantees and getting sub drafted is likely. If you submit a package for OCS after college graduation, you can choose if there are openings. Must academy grads I work with are counting down until they get out and they still have 3 years left. If you want more info let me know.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 3:29 pm to LSUpetro1
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go to a traditional school then OCS.
this, if going active duty is your thing, otherwise, guard
ETA: for aviator route that is
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 4:29 pm to Ag Zwin
I have a son who will graduate from Annapolis this year. He's going Submarines.
Here's a question for your son to answer that might help him with his decision: Does he want to command a ship, or does he want to command forces in the field?
Of course, he can go Marines and do the latter from Navy. So, if he can't answer the question yet, Navy might be the better choice. But, if he knows he wants to be in the field already, Army has a lot of options for him.
Either way, congratulations! It's a great achievement.
GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY!
Here's a question for your son to answer that might help him with his decision: Does he want to command a ship, or does he want to command forces in the field?
Of course, he can go Marines and do the latter from Navy. So, if he can't answer the question yet, Navy might be the better choice. But, if he knows he wants to be in the field already, Army has a lot of options for him.
Either way, congratulations! It's a great achievement.
GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY!
Posted on 1/15/19 at 4:37 pm to LSUpetro1
quote:
there are no guarantees and getting sub drafted is likely.
I was a sub draft. It is not a common occurrence I would gladly provide more details, but I do not think that is a good enough reason to avoid the Boat School. You also do not have guarantees going OCS.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:18 pm to BoatSchoolTiger
When did you go through the program? Because well over half were sub drafted. I’m subs as well.
Also, in no way am I saying don’t go to the academy. It’s a very prestigious school and a lot of my buddies are academy grads. It’s a different experience for sure but there are times when going traditional is more beneficial. For example, if you go NUPOC, you get paid as an E-6 for your final three years in college and get a nice bonus. Plus you start building vacation days. Things the academy does not get until the commission
Also, in no way am I saying don’t go to the academy. It’s a very prestigious school and a lot of my buddies are academy grads. It’s a different experience for sure but there are times when going traditional is more beneficial. For example, if you go NUPOC, you get paid as an E-6 for your final three years in college and get a nice bonus. Plus you start building vacation days. Things the academy does not get until the commission
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:33 pm to BoatSchoolTiger
quote:1. My physical screening was setup for me
Define: "setup to get in"
2. The arranged the entire process with my state represntative
3. Hell, they basically arranged everything for me really
I was not a big 3 sport, but I would have been considered a high enough recruit that normally doesn’t consider an academy I guess you could say
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:59 pm to TOSOV
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If possible could you confirm how a regular tourist can visit, and take a tour? I went as a kid, and it was awesome. Just heard that they shut it down some for vistors. Just wondering if true or pretty welcoming.
Go to the visitors center which is located right outside of Thayer Gate in Highland Falls, NY. Lines can be long at the VC so I would recommend looking online to see about getting security clearance ahead of time.
When you are there feel free to stop the cadets and ask them questions and take selfies with them. They love to take pictures with the people that are paying for their education.
You can see if you’re getting an acceptable ROI by asking them some simple questions such as “How’s the Cow?” or “What’s the definition of leather?”
If the don’t answer correctly then just shake your and remind them that the “Corps has . . .”
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:15 am to slackster
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Pretty sure he's talking about the letters of recommendation.
Letters of recommendation were fairly routine (teachers, pastor, etc.), though they did include one from a 2-star admiral that heads up the Ethics department at Annapolis.
The nominations were helped by us not being in a crazy-competitive district. I think he would have had a pretty good shot regardless (top of his class, almost perfect ACT, 4 sport letterman, class president, etc.), but once you get a slate of hundreds for one slot, you just never know.
The BGO (Blue and Gold Officer, liaison for the academy) told me he had never seen an application as strong as my boy's, but that's in a district where the pool is considerably thinner than a big metro district full of high-end schools.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:58 am to fishfighter
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You have to understand that once there and finished, there will be a life time of true connections in the future. High up ones at that which can open many doors. It's more then just a school of higher learning.
you are pretty much set for life in more ways than one if you are fortunate enough to attend an academy. retire repatively young and thennl get immediately hired for a military contractor at a high management level and basically pull in two checks. but that's small time compared to the real personal benefits.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:04 am to Ag Zwin
Annapolis
Would steer him this way.
He will have the Marine Corps option...
Would steer him this way.
He will have the Marine Corps option...
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