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re: TOPS Only Requires an ACT of 20

Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:00 am to
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:00 am to
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“If you did that, you’d eliminate 80 percent of the minority students.


Then maybe they should actually study and prepare for the test if it will mean free money for college. College isn't for everyone. Let a higher ACT weed out the dumb ones that are just wasting state money until they lose their TOPS after the first semester.


Still pisses me off that TOPS went into effect for 1997 grads, when I graduated in 1996.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:00 am to
Lol. I think it began in the OP though

quote:

 I had a 25 the first time I took it as a freshman
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:01 am to
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Are you telling me you can get essentially a scholarship with only a 20?


It definitely needs to be raised

quote:

“Some legislators want to increase the bar to 24,” Caillier said. “If you did that, you’d eliminate 80 percent of the minority students.



but holy shite at this statement
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167856 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:01 am to
I ignore Poncho because he is what it would be like if Peej and Hammertime had a kid with all the lying he does.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29272 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Racist ACT scores


yes
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97805 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:02 am to
It should have been raised a long time ago

Should also have to be paid back if degree is not complete in 5 years
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
83686 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:02 am to
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Why don't they just tier TOPS awards??


they do

you get extra scholarship money for higher ACT scores
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:02 am to
Is this where we post our ACT scores? I got a 32, broken down thus:

Reading: 35
Math: 33
English: 31
Science: 29

I took it about 15 years ago, but I remember the scores because my brothers and I are in a life-long competition on everything. I won the ACT competition against them by 1 point.
Posted by Taffeta
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
925 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:02 am to
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Why don't they just tier TOPS awards??

If you score a 19 -24 on the ACT And still meet the GPA requirement, you can get a full ride to community college, or only receive partial payment to 4 year college.


TOPS is tiered.

I had tops when i went to LSU, and it only paid for about half of my tuition. Still had to fork out $1000 per semester.

Wasn't eligible for pell grants since I assume my parents made too much money. We are middle class.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:03 am to
Ah gotcha. One of them probably fricked the teacher that administered their act test anyway
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425744 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:04 am to
what is scarier is the follow up, which will be "they get good grades" and then you go "those are these schools' best students?"

it was one of those shocking revelations i received touring schools in Nerd Bowl back in high school. really eye-opening

and even back in high school i wanted a "school tier" where x-level got you to a CC, y-level got you to a regional school, and z would let you get a free ride to LSU.
Posted by Boondock Saint
The Boondocks
Member since Oct 2005
4551 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:04 am to
The problem is we are wasting money as a state paying for too many dipshits to waste their freshman year in college when they have no business being there.

BTW, I made a 37 when I was in 2nd grade.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167856 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:05 am to
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Ah gotcha. One of them probably fricked the teacher that administered their act test anyway




And was offered $20K for the rights to the video
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18426 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:05 am to
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I made a 31 on mine



And so it begins...


33 here, baller status
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:06 am to
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I know of some people who didn't have great ACT scores but still succeeded in college. One of those people are going back and getting a second degree in engineering. ACT scores are no measures of intelligence.


Standardized tests are a proven method to measure aptitude for the majority of students. The outliers are not an indication of efficacy, or lack thereof.

In short, if you're not scoring above a 20 on the ACT, there is a high probability that you are not going to be successful scholastically.

Your anecdotal evidence is akin to my suggesting that a 4-year degree from Harvard is useless because Bill Gates dropped out and became wildly successful.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18514 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:07 am to
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TOPS Only Requires an ACT of 20
Yes, so if you don't score a 20 or higher, you don't deserve TOPS. And don't forget to make your kids take Physics.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:08 am to
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Should also have to be paid back if degree is not complete in 5 years


I agree with this.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
60634 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:08 am to
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Why don't they just tier TOPS awards??
It was when I went, I am assuming the same goes for now


I believe 26 was the threshold for the max Tops stipend
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124923 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:10 am to
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“If you did that, you’d eliminate 80 percent of the minority students.



That sounds like a problem with the minority students.

Glad we dumb our education down to the lowest common denominator.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37632 posts
Posted on 1/26/16 at 11:11 am to
Tops doesn't need to change ACT reqs. It needs to require TOPs receivers to participate in degrees that fricking matter

Art, political science, music, etc should not be taken with TOPs money
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