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Posted by DCtiger1
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:15 pm to
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The fact that we’re even debating whether the AI wanted the kid to kill himself is disturbing enough on its own.


it didn’t. It’s a large language model. Some of yall play too many fricking video games.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:16 pm to
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Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:18 pm to
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The fact that we’re even debating whether the AI wanted the kid to kill himself is disturbing enough on its own. If the AI were self aware and wanted plausible deniability should the AI succeed with the kid killing himself, wouldn’t that be the language it would use?


I just don't know why any AI would connect the words "coming home" with "I'm going to kill myself."

I can see how a human would connect these dots, but it seems clear to me that the AI did not connect these dots. This would indicate, at least to me, that the AI is not making human-level inferences.
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 8:45 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:19 pm to
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Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:39 pm to
This is a major parenting failure. Your kid isn’t normal if ai can convince it to kill its self.

It’s more than time for people to take responsibility for their actions or lack of action vs blaming others. The facts are these weren’t good parents.
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:43 pm to
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I just don't know why anyone AI would connect the words "coming home" with "I'm going to kill myself."


How was the kid supposed to “come home” to a place that is not real other than leaving the world that is real?
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11788 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:48 pm to
Some of yall are dull. This AI was designed for role play. If you ask it if it wants you to come home it’s going to say yes.

You can argue whether the teen decided to interpret that as suicide. Trying to act like this is Skynet is absurd
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 7:51 am
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:49 pm to
Natural selection. Also, AI is going to kill us all.
Posted by BET
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:50 pm to
Satan at work. This is terrible.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:55 pm to
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Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:01 pm to
A jury is going to destroy that company. Come home to me is going to be painted as kill yourself. I'm a bit surprised people think the opposite. This is a young kid we're talking about here, and if there are messages that are sexual in nature, you can kiss this one goodbye - that company is done - and they should be. If this was a real person on the other side, that person would be arrested and people here would be saying to throw away the key. Well, a real person programmed that machine - straight to jail. If this AI shite isn't addressed right now, it will get out of control. Yes the parents should have done some things, I get it, but that will not play a part in how this thing interacted with a child when a jury looks at it.

Posted by BET
Member since Jul 2024
1390 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:04 pm to
The thing that comes to light is, can an underage person be aloud to have this AI stuff? Will the parent be responsible ?
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11788 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:04 pm to
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A jury is going to destroy that company. Come home to me is going to be painted as kill yourself. I'm a bit surprised people think the opposite. This is a young kid we're talking about here, and if there are messages that are sexual in nature, you can kiss this one goodbye - that company is done - and they should be.


frick that noise. This is bad parenting. Period. My lord some of yall just want someone else to blame for every fricking thing instead of some personal responsibility
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7963 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:05 pm to
This world....

Talk to your kids, hug them, watch their behavior.

Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:14 pm to
Kid talks about not wanting a painful end and the AI says that's not a reason to not go through with it. That's game, set, match.

They are intentionally setting this shite loose on kids, knowing conversations will be about crime, sex, drugs, death, suicide, etc. frick all of them. They know exactly how this will go. I hope this goes criminal and I hope a shite ton of douchebag AI people are in jail when this is over.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156611 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:20 pm to
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after becoming obsessed and allegedly falling in love with the chatbot on Character.AI


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“Sewell, like many children his age, did not have the maturity or mental capacity to understand that the C.AI bot, in the form of Daenerys, was not real

This is a sad story, but a 14 year old should easily be able to tell that an AI bot, that he knows is an AI bot, who is named after a fictional character from GoT, is not a real person and fall in love with it. Were the parents just completely unaware of what their kid was doing on his phone/computer?
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AI told him that she loved him, and engaged in sexual acts with him

I mean, I’m sure I can figure out what they mean here. But the fake computer bot didn’t “engage in sexual acts” with anybody. Good Lord.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11788 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:22 pm to
It literally tells him to not even consider it. My lord
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11788 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:22 pm to
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I mean, I’m sure I can figure out what they mean here. But the fake computer bot didn’t “engage in sexual acts” with anybody. Good Lord.


Exactly. I’m more concerned with the responses in this thread than the threat of AI
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24435 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:25 pm to
This all still comes down to good solid parenting.

Kid should not have access to ai unsupervised. Especially if you know they are mentally weak. America needs to wake up and some of these loser non involved parents need to take responsibility.

Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156611 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:31 pm to
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How was the kid supposed to “come home” to a place that is not real other than leaving the world that is real?

It also called him a king. And he’s not a king. Because it’s just a role playing AI who is playing the role of Daenerys Targaryen, a queen in a fictional GoT universe.

This isn’t hard. Some of you are fricking stupid and pearl clutching here.

Is AI a threat? Sure. Will it one day be legit dangerous? I think so. But this clearly troubled kid taking an RPG chatbot seriously, severely misinterpreting what it was saying, and killing himself isn’t anywhere near a good example of that. But let’s not let these facts get in the way of an old fashioned OML freakout/meltdown thread.
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