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StringedInstruments
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Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
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Research suggests that many fathers struggle balancing hegemonic masculine norms with new fatherhood ideals. This study uses data on 2,194 fathers from a national study on fathers of children aged 2 to 18 and incorporates a comprehensive assessment of masculine norms to examine whether adherence to masculine norms is associated with father involvement and whether this relationship is mediated by fathers' adherence to the new fatherhood ideal that promotes engaged, nurturing parenting. Results suggest that fathers who more closely adhere to masculine norms are less involved in instrumental and expressive parenting and are more likely to engage in harsh discipline than fathers who are less masculine. Adherence to masculine norms also reduces the likelihood of embracing the new fatherhood ideal, and adherence to the new fatherhood ideal at least partially mediates the relationship between masculinity and father involvement. Overall, despite changing expectations for fathers, hegemonic masculine norms continue to shape fathers' behavior.


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“We found that today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving toward their kids than ever before,” said Kevin Shafer, BYU sociology professor and a co-author of the study. “Most dads see themselves as playing an equally important role in helping their children as mothers do. At the same time, however, there is a group of dads who believe they are to be breadwinners, disciplinarians and nothing more.” The study also showed a correlation between fathers who exhibit negative aspects of traditional masculinity and fathers who are less involved with their children.


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Ignignot
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
Ehh, id disagree.

No matter the generation you have your bad apples and good apples.

There's just more people now on the world.


50_Tiger
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
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StringedInstruments



How about a study on mothers in the same period.

Women have changed a bit.


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MrSmith
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
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There's just more people now on the world.


That's not how this works


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MSMHater
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
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Adherence to masculine norms also reduces the likelihood of embracing the new fatherhood ideal, and adherence to the new fatherhood ideal at least partially mediates the relationship between masculinity and father involvement.


I'm sorry, but this is so stupid it hurts. Implying an inverse relationship between being a good dad and being masculine?


Barbellthor
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
It's always a balance. Someone must be the disciplinarian, and there must be enough income to support the family. But just because you give the whoopings and/or bring home most of the bacon doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't really sit down to talk to your kid at least once in a while or give some praise here or there, nor do you have to cry at every Oxygen channel movie and be a sweater-wearing, '90s psychologist open journal all the time.

I mean, really, it's whatever works for the family. But you don't have to give up "masculine norms" to be "involved in instrumental and expressive parenting," whatever that vaguery means. And what exactly is "the new fatherhood ideal," and who said it was necessarily a good thing?


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Federal Tiger
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
Did they account for all the baby daddy's who don't do anything?

I'm quite sure that number is higher than ever before.

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Results suggest that fathers who more closely adhere to masculine norms are less involved in instrumental and expressive parenting and are more likely to engage in harsh discipline than fathers who are less masculine. Adherence to masculine norms also reduces the likelihood of embracing the new fatherhood ideal, and adherence to the new fatherhood ideal at least partially mediates the relationship between masculinity and father involvement. Overall, despite changing expectations for fathers, hegemonic masculine norms continue to shape fathers' behavior.


Sounds like they want men to be less manly. Not shocked.


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fr33manator
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el Gaucho
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
No wonder we got all these snowflake millennials


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udtiger
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
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“We found that today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving toward their kids than ever before,” said Kevin Shafer, BYU sociology professor and a co-author of the study. “Most dads see themselves as playing an equally important role in helping their children as mothers do. At the same time, however, there is a group of dads who believe they are to be breadwinners, disciplinarians and nothing more.”


I am betting more problem kids come from the former than the latter.


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GreatLakesTiger24
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
Most dads are way too touchey-feely, emotional, hugging their sons and shite

Fathers are supposed to be indifferent and reading a newspaper


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lsupride87
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
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Ehh, id disagree.
Id agree.

Im not sure I would say they love them more, but they def spend more time with them and helping out mom

My dad straight told me he cant believe men change diapers, go in the delivery room, take kids to daycare, etc etc


He says its great, but its just a clear difference in today and yester years


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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
Probably a result of the increase of working women over the past 50 years
This post was edited on 6/13 at 10:55 am


lsupride87
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
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Probably a result of the increase of working women over the past 50 years


I would think that is a huge catalyst


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StringedInstruments
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
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Probably has a lot to do with the increase of working women over the past 50 years


Agreed. My father never once changed my diaper or cooked or did much cleaning. But my mom stayed home until I was 7. He was that traditional “newspaper reading” Dad as one poster put it.

When my kid was born, I couldn’t in good conscious expect my wife to do all the baby stuff while working the same amount of hours I did.


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Dam Guide
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
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Probably a result of the increase of working women over the past 50 years


This and the pushback on the Boomer shitshow style of parenting.


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Hammertime
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
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hegemonic
I like pretending I know what all of these new words mean.

This article was shockingly well written. Don't see that so often nowadays


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HoustonChick86
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
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Probably a result of the increase of working women over the past 50 years


Absolutely.


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LoveThatMoney
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
As the son of an Eagle Scout, avid hunter, Indian dancer, football player, and Vietnam vet, who is the son of a second generation German butcher, WWII medic, basketball player, I learned that being there for my kids is "masculine" in every way, including giving them comfort in times of need and giving them discipline when warranted. Stupid study is stupid. When did being aggressive equate to being bad. Aggressiveness is a character traits inherent in most all men. Thanks, testosterone. Guess our fricking hormones are evil. Idiotic.
This post was edited on 6/13 at 11:10 am


BoardReader
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re: Today’s dads spend more time, provide more care and are more loving than ever before
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Implying an inverse relationship between being a good dad and being masculine?


Of course. The assault on tradition has to be armed with 'science'.


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