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re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing

Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:41 am to
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:41 am to
That sub:

Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:42 am to
I do wonder if this vessel gets found any time soon, if at all
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:43 am to


I'm sure most of the north Atlantic picked it up.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Some of the ballast is abandoned construction pipes that are sitting on shelves on the side of the thing, and the way you detach the ballast is you get everybody ob-board to lean to one side of the sub and they roll off,' he explained.


Learning this would be the moment you should set down the pen, push the waiver away, and kindly tell them to frick off.

Insane that they got on this thing just knowing that was how you dumped the ballast.


Also have to wonder how much of the cost cutting and skipped testing was due to the fact that the Titanic is disintegrating as metal eating bacteria eat away 100 pounds of metal a day. This dude may have rushed things purely b/c he was worried the ship was going to completely collapse before he could get his company off the ground.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:45 am to
So you think that there's a very accurate location of where they lost coms at and thus where the sub was when it went?

I imagine the ships sonar plotter probably has a good log of the event as well? If it wasn't too deep, I feel like I could have PROBABLY watched this happen on a bass boat downscan system and figured out what happened. That big supply boat surely has better shite than I do on my boat.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:46 am to
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Probably a Russian sub in the area having a disco party.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:47 am to
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e I could have PROBABLY watched this happen on a bass boat downscan system and figured out what happened.


if whatever happened happened at less than a hundred feet
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:48 am to
Hes probably excessively arrogant (a quality all great explorers posses), with no money in the bank to support the things he felt were unnecessary.

While it isn't particularly elegant, that system would sound perfectly fine to someone who has zero real concept of what they are about to do, and are simultaneously being convinced it's fine by a charismatic Cousteau wannabe.
Posted by TheGasMan
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:50 am to
They should have a rough idea. Depends on where in the water column it broke up. Deeper it was, the easier to find as it wouldn’t have had an opportunity to drift as far.

quote:

That big supply boat

They probably don’t, but hundreds of other ships do (with respect to a deep tow magnetometer and sidescan or AUV with sidescan or SAS).

I’m currently flying to a job as we speak doing the same thing (albeit in a different part of the world).
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:52 am to
Nah man, those things are amazing these days. I know mine picks up reasonable detail at 300ish feet.

This thing didn't make it anywhere near the bottom before it went pop if it was less than 2 hours into the dive.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:53 am to
quote:

They probably don’t, but hundreds of other ships do (with respect to a deep tow magnetometer and sidescan or AUV with sidescan or SAS).


I was gonna say this exact thing except I don't know WTF it means.

quote:

I'm currently flying to a job as we speak doing the same thing (albeit in a different part of the world).


No! Don't leave us now. Not NOW!!
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:54 am to
I wonder how many passengers knew about this incident and the utter incompetency of the company before they forked over $250k (or before they closed the hatch and started their descent).




Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:02 pm to
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They probably don’t


That's kind of surprising, but I guess it does kind of look like a normal supply boat or an anchor handler rather than a well intervention type boat.

Either way, seems like they should know about where it went away from.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:03 pm to
I laughed way too hard at this, but considering who's on the sub, I'm okay with it.

Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:06 pm to
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DownshiftAndFloorIt


Aside from my silly and smartass comments in this thing and my occasional unbelievably prescient observations, is it your understanding that the submersible is transported out there on a bigger ship, offloaded into the water once they are in a pretty close approximation of where they want to go? And then the big ship hangs around for 10 hours or whatever, and then on-loads it and goes back home.

Is that about right?
Posted by Kansas City King
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:12 pm to
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0.000000000% chance that they can actually find anything.

imagine trying to find what is equivalent to a crushed up hatchback 12,500+ feet down in complete and utter darkness. Also there’s titanic debris around, so it will make it that much harder to find. Who knows if the current picked up what was left of the sub and swept it away like a feather in the wind
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Captain Crackysack
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:13 pm to
The Skandi Vinland is outfitted for inspection, maintenance, and repair work and light well intervention. They have a survey suite on board but they are performing work on subsea assets that they already know the location of. Their only ability to find the sub is gonna be with the cameras on the ROVs and a ton of luck
Posted by BPTiger
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:14 pm to
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And then the big ship hangs around for 10 hours or whatever, and then on-loads it and goes back home.


I believe it’s typically a 5 day trip so they can launch at least one and perhaps multiple times to accommodate for conditions and multiple paying customers.
Posted by TheGasMan
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:16 pm to
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imagine trying to find what is equivalent to a crushed up hatchback 12,500+ feet down in complete and utter darkness. Who knows if the current picked up what was left of the sub and swept it away like a feather


It’s actually not as hard as you might think, assuming they have a fairly dialed in search radius and the currents didn’t take it out of that radius. The darkness has 0 factor in finding it.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 12:21 pm
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:18 pm to
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the actual implosion.


I assume, if it was an implosion, that death was relatively quick for these poor people.
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