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re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing

Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:55 am to
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:55 am to
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what's the best case scenario, survival and charged with the murder of 4 people?



international waters baw, who gonna charge you?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92061 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:59 am to
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international waters baw, who gonna charge you?



baw, do you ever "And the Sea Will Tell?"
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37159 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:59 am to
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Tough to know what they heard

Probably a Russian sub in the area having a disco party.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93189 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:59 am to
anyone taking bets if they recover the sub they'll find the other occupants ripped the CEO apart limb from limb?

eta imagine being trapped at teh bottom of the ocean with the smug a-hole who skirted every safety measure and installed a video game controller for the diversity 20yo captain?
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 11:01 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65274 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:01 am to
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Here is a good question. 5 people onboard breathing oxygen. You have a pocket knife and are stuck onboard. Do you attempt to kill the 4 other passengers to give yourself more oxygen and a better chance of being found?

A sub containing a bunch of psycho business CEO's, including the a-hole who founded the sub tour company? Yeah, I think the chances they they've mulled it over and maybe even suggested it out loud are pretty strong.

James Cameron would definitely be murdering people down there.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:01 am to
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Is there anything out there publicly that can recover something that size at that depth?

Any oilfield boat with an ROV and a crane with enough cable to make it down that far. The Navy contracts these same types of private sector vessels thru Military Sealift Command so honestly I doubt the military has anything better for this type of recovery job
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37159 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:01 am to
Does this craptastic company have to reimburse the various government and private agencies that are expending large amounts of resources to look for their underwater death trap?
Posted by FriscoTiger1973
Frisco, Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1414 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:03 am to
They probably died the when it disappeared. The USCG, etc are waiting for the time to run out, so they can say they tried. The announcement will happen once the oxygen would have run out. The sub probably imploded the first day.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
72052 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:04 am to
Yea I'm sitting here thinking about some of the boats I've been on and I seem to remember some of them having several miles (4 miles rings a bell for some reason?) of cable on the deck crane drums for pulling up BOPs or something like that. It's been a minute since I've been on something like that and it was never in an operational capacity.

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:07 am to
Somebody's gonna owe somebody something.

I think general accepted maritime law is to render assistance to vessels in distress, but that Skandi boat definitely is not going to hang around digging in the mud for submarine parts for free for very long even with the positive media exposure it'll get.

I doubt this oceansub company or whatever has hardly any liquid cash on hand at all to cover any of this shite and probably shite for insurance as well. Since they are certainly dead by now, I doubt much more happens except for private ventures in the future looking for sub pieces.
Posted by GeauxZone90
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
3628 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:12 am to
They probably drank his blood in order to stay hydrated . Desperate people will do crazy things to survive. Hope they went quick
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 11:21 am
Posted by LootieandtheBlowfish
Member since Aug 2021
823 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:13 am to
There’s a billionaire maybe 2? down there in sure the estate can cover the costs
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:14 am to
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(4 miles rings a bell for some reason?)
probably 4,000 meters. That’s about the max amount of cable I know of on subsea boats I’ve worked on. And then I’ve worked on boats with sister ROVs to the ones on the Skandi Vinland and they are rated to like 16,000 feet or something like that
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:17 am to
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There’s a billionaire maybe 2? down there in sure the estate can cover the costs

That vessel on scene is easily a $100k per day boat to charter. Not to mention it’s already under long term charter to Husky Energy and they are gonna want it back asap. Also of note, the general rule of thumb when it comes to subsea work is that an ROV and knuckle boom crane don’t leave the deck unless they know who’s footing the bill. That’s tens of millions of dollars of equipment that needs constant maintenance and repairs

ETA: and that $100k doesn’t include fuel
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 11:21 am
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
72052 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:19 am to
Yea, I just looked. The last one I dealt with was 4,000m max working depth on the main crane and the ROV.

I guess the only way any of this stuff gets recovered is if one of the bazillionaires family's contracts one of these deepwater well service companies out to search and recover. I'm sure someone will find the funding from somewhere to get a final answer on their fate, even though we already have one.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7223 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:19 am to
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The CEO of OceanGate, which is operating the missing Titanic tourist submarine, explains that the company didn’t want to hire any experienced “50 year old white guys” because they weren’t “inspirational.”


Well the CEO is 61 and the pilot of the ship is 77 so maybe he was onto something...
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
7128 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:19 am to
If this submarine is gone and lost, do you think it’ll ever be found or even an effort to find it? There’s still huge aircraft carriers from WW2 that haven’t been found 75+ years later
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1318 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:20 am to
or 4 people banging the owners head on the titanium caps
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105236 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:21 am to
Most of the history of exploration/invention is rich assholes doing stupid shite and often getting themselves killed in the process. Precision engineered government/corporate projects didn't start being a thing until the second half of the twentieth century. This guy is harkening back to a long tradition, although admittedly much more slapdick than his brethren Elon, RIchard Branson, et al.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37159 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:21 am to
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Also of note, the general rule of thumb when it comes to subsea work is that an ROV and knuckle boom crane don’t leave the deck unless they know who’s footing the bill.

Does this apply to distress calls/emergency ops?

Not doubting you, just curious as my understanding is that maritime practice is to recover first, ask questions later.
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