re: Time to rethink how students should react to school shooters?

They should just have pitbulls on stand by. They'd frick up a school shooter.

Locking doors has been a pretty damn effective strategy so far.

School shooters go for the path of least resistance and pass over locked doors.

Other than that, the prevention needs to come from not allowing them on the school grounds in the first place. Set up a stronger perimeter, more resource officers, and maybe metal detectors.

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Is there a downside to this?

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I think it would be easier to have police officers do this, the problem with hiring vets to be employees of the school would be their ongoing training to maintain their skills, schools just don't have the systems in place to keep them up with their training. That said, I think police departments stepping up the hiring of vets to be SRO's could be a fantastic idea.

Cost is also a major factor... for every school to have 2-3+ depending on school size (what you would need to be an effective response IMO) the costs would be astronomical.

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they still are 14-18 years old, theres not many of them who could quickly be trained in the scope of a active shooter drill to react effectively under the stress of the situation IMO.

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I'd love to know how you came to this conclusion. And no one is expecting perfection. But any improvement is better than the current fish in a barrel situation.

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Have military vets do this. Is there a downside to this?

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how much money would it cost to staff every public school in America with armed guards and is that worth "feeling safe"?

14 male students per 100,000 commit suicide every year but where is the outrage and the concern to spend time, money and other resources to address this?

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Israel has found success with it already. It's not just a "pipe dream". It's been proven to work. Are our kids less capable than Israeli kids? (maybe we shouldn't answer that)...

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I'm sorry if I don't want the US to be like Israel. I'd rather not sacrifice more freedom every year for the illusion of safety

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FYI: I'm am a firm believer in the 2A

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How about he not have 30 and 60RD mags.

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Huh?

You’re advocating taking things away from law abiding gun owners to prevent something that since columbine, has happened 31 times, 25 of which were fatal.

But you’re a firm believer in the 2nd amendment.

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I agree but, what freedom is being sacrificed with this plan?

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I meant more about Israel in general and less about their specific school plans.

Have you ever flown into Israel or dealt with their checkpoints, etc?

It's a nightmare and living in that type of society would be hell

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Locking doors has been a pretty damn effective strategy so far.

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Until the shooter oulls the fire alarm and 1,200 kids run out into the hall.

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School shooters go for the path of least resistance and pass over locked doors. Other than that, the prevention needs to come from not allowing them on the school grounds in the first place. Set up a stronger perimeter, more resource officers, and maybe metal detectors.

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Metal detectors will only go off as the kids enter the building. Most schools have a lot of entry ways that must remain unlocked all day. Putting a detector at every door and a person manning it all day is not practical.

Shooter could also just wait in the woods until school lets out and shoots them as they exit. Or shoot up a football game. Or the buses as they drive away.

Bottom line is that there is we are looking at protecting kids from nuts that will find a way to kill. Our efforts would be better spent on dealing with the troubled kids. Better mental health and support programs.