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re: Time for Louisiana to do away with TOPS
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:59 am to tylercsbn9
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:59 am to tylercsbn9
the standards are entirely too low to be sustainable
but its pretty dumb to call it "welfare"
but its pretty dumb to call it "welfare"
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:02 am to Oilfieldbiology
quote:
Raise it to a 24? Where is it now?
Looks like the requirements are a 20 on the ACT and 2.5 HS GPA from what I've found online.
Pretty pathetic actually.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:05 am to Bedhog
quote:The two are not comparable. A person receiving TOPS yields a resource to better the state. The others are just providing life essentials.
I know plenty of families with kids who received TOPS money and they are very well off and will also bitch about food stamps and section 8 money.
Now, how we utilize the fruits of TOPS or if it is effective is debatable, but this is a stupid point.
IF Louisiana would spend time creating economies to employ and utilize the recipients of TOPS we would see a great improvement in the State. We dont, we just pray the price of oil goes back up.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:07 am to Bedhog
I would gladly ditch TOPS for a compromise.
- Mandatory drug testing of all SNAP benefits.
- Grown single men or women not eligible for SNAP/EBT
- No use of EBT at fast food restaurants
That's for starters: Deal?
- Mandatory drug testing of all SNAP benefits.
- Grown single men or women not eligible for SNAP/EBT
- No use of EBT at fast food restaurants
That's for starters: Deal?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:09 am to NPComb
quote:sure. As I stated, not a fan of social welfare programs at all. No matter if merit bases or not.
I would gladly ditch TOPS for a compromise.
- Mandatory drug testing of all SNAP benefits.
- Grown single men or women not eligible for SNAP/EBT
- No use of EBT at fast food restaurants
That's for starters: Deal?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:10 am to REB BEER
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Here's my problem with TOPS. Sure it pays for tuition, but now the universities add fees that add up to what tuition used to be. So basically, they're getting the double the money they used to get. 1/2 comes from the state and 1/2 comes from the students or their parents.
Yep, but if you remove TOPS those fees are staying and now the student has twice the debt to start their adult life. Don't think they're staying here to work that off.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:14 am to tylercsbn9
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The standard are pathetically low
But there is a standard, correct?
That is the definition of a merit component.
I’m not saying the current standard is appropriate in proportion to the reward given. I’m saying that it is, in fact, a standard.
quote:
Because unless you’re mentally challenged you can get it.
Then the majority of LA’s population is mentally challenged.
Plenty of non-mentally challenged people out there who don’t get good grades because they’re F-ups in other regards, but If that’s what you believe, that’s fine. It still doesn’t change the fact that you actually have to do something to get TOPS. Which means it’s not welfare.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:15 am to bayourougebengal
quote:What's your thoughts on the 529 savings plan?
Yep, but if you remove TOPS those fees are staying and now the student has twice the debt to start their adult life.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:15 am to NPComb
Can we add on a military service requirement for voting rights?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:23 am to Bedhog
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I know plenty of families with kids who received TOPS money and they are very well off and will also bitch about food stamps and section 8 money.
Yep, I know of a family that moved here from Texas three years ago. Transferred here for a job. They are waiting on their kid to graduate high school and get TOPS then they are transferring/moving back to Texas. One and a half years left till he graduates.
They will have lived here for five years and got two kids through college for free. Their kids will no doubt be moving to Texas when they finish college.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:25 am to NPComb
quote:
Mandatory drug testing of all SNAP benefits.
- Grown single men or women not eligible for SNAP/EBT
- No use of EBT at fast food restaurants
I get you. But the problem is that their are too many work arounds.
Point 2 is mute when you consider the percentage of women having kids. They will get more than enough SNAP benefits.
quote:
- No use of EBT at fast food restaurants
This isnt so much a legal issue as it is a private company issue. Restaurants and gas stations love EBT as a cash cow. Point 3 is essentially targeting a redistribution of wealth with private companies (ironic?)
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:26 am to chryso
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Can we add on a military service requirement for voting rights?
After we add property ownership
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:30 am to Bedhog
Southerners aversion to education and a more educated population really is comical
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:30 am to Bedhog
As a taxpayer I demand we cut the military. Why should my tax dollars go to protecting y’all from Russia? I don’t give a damn what the constitution says, I’M A TAXPAYER DAMNIT
That’s how retarded some of y’all sound
ETA: I thought I was in the other thread. Where da frick did it go?
ETA: Sorry, but it’s not my responsibility to protect you bitches from other countries. You can protect yourself
That’s how retarded some of y’all sound
ETA: I thought I was in the other thread. Where da frick did it go?
ETA: Sorry, but it’s not my responsibility to protect you bitches from other countries. You can protect yourself
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 11:34 am
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:33 am to windshieldman
quote:
That’s how retarded some of y’all sound
Sorry you like welfare.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:35 am to beerJeep
quote:
Sorry you like welfare.
Go start your own country and ban welfare then
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:36 am to beerJeep
quote:
Sorry you like welfare.
Sorry you like taxes.
This is fun.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:36 am to windshieldman
Maybe I will. I’ll call it “frick windshieldman and welfare”
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:36 am to Salmon
quote:
Sorry you like taxes.
By getting rid of welfare, you lower taxes.
How do I like taxes?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 11:37 am to Bedhog
No. My wife and I make about 150k a year combined and we have three kids in college right now. Would be really difficult and saddle all of us with debt without TOPS.
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