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re: Three Arkansas officers suspended and under investigation after video shows use of force

Posted on 8/22/22 at 6:53 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 6:53 am to
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They think they can go around and treat people the same way they treat their wives (domestic abuse among law enforcement is 2x higher than average).


Not unlike NFL players.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 6:55 am to
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I’m not going out to burn down white businesses because some shite bag was spitting on and threatening people. That’s the difference.


No one said you have to go full nuclear option. (Although, If the PD circle the wagons on this case and try to protect these cops from getting prosecuted, perhaps burning down the precinct would be justified.)

But too many conservative white people are knee-jerk ‘back the blue’ types who just accept that the suspect had it coming. Cops are on notice now in black neighborhoods to watch their asses when arresting someone.

They should be on similar notice in white neighborhoods.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:00 am to
The issue is the rioting for cases like Alton Sterling and Mike Brown. If the protests only happened in legit cases, I'd understand it. We all know that's not close to reality though.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:03 am to
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Until the people in place to protect are able to be trusted by the populace, than things will never change. This is a billion times worse than seeing some street thugs doing the same thing


You aren’t going to like how your constant war against police turns out.

I’m not a fan of the police but I know that not having police is much worse. Just look at New Orleans, the police are leaving in droves.

It’s going to get very very violent until the point where even people like you are begging to hire more police and police that aren’t afraid to use force.

I know you can’t imagine yourself saying that but just give it time, you will come around

I’m done arguing with people like you. I’m ready to get rid of the police and let the cities burn just so I can tell dumbasses like you that I told you so.
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 7:04 am
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:06 am to
Like I said, rioting is the nuclear option that should only be initiated in the rarest of occasions when the law has completely collapsed and the citizenry has literally no other recourse. Even most cases of police brutality down always justify it.

That being said, unless you make a stink, nothing gets changed.

Right now, conservative white people are being played for suckers by police departments because those are the last neighborhoods and towns in the country where no one will raise a stink over brutality.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:08 am to
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You aren’t going to like how your constant war against police turns out. I’m not a fan of the police but I know that not having police is much worse. Just look at New Orleans, the police are leaving in droves. It’s going to get very very violent until the point where even people like you are begging to hire more police and police that aren’t afraid to use force. I know you can’t imagine yourself saying that but just give it time, you will come around I’m done arguing with people like you. I’m ready to get rid of the police and let the cities burn just so I can tell dumbasses like you that I told you so.


So your only solution is “keep taking the brutality, or else the cops will quit and leave us for dead”?

Are police a protection racket?
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 7:09 am
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:11 am to
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That being said, unless you make a stink, nothing gets changed.


You act like there is an epidemic of police violence.

Yea these things happen occasionally in a country of 350 million when you have below average IQ humans trying to physically restrain the dregs of our society. It’s amazing it doesn’t happen more frequently.

But on your quest for absolute zero incidents like this you are going to find the outcome you get is way worse than the situation you were currently in.

You just like how it feels to be the flag bearer of what you believe is a moral war. That’s great, but it’s not reality.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:12 am to
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So your only solution is “keep taking the brutality, or else the cops will quit and leave us for dead”?


No. I’m asking what your goal is.

Are you trying to achieve absolute zero police brutality cases?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:12 am to
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Right now, conservative white people are being played for suckers by police departments because those are the last neighborhoods and towns in the country where no one will raise a stink over brutality.


Why would we? It essentially never happens to us Perhaps the suckers are doing something right
Posted by tilthatday
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
931 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:13 am to
Controlling a grown man is far from easy. All the armchair UFC fighters on here say these cops should have been able to cuff him in a more gentle manner. I sincerely mean this: try it. Try sometime to hold a grown man down and force his hands behind his back and keep them in place long enough to put cuffs on.
You can’t do it, and you would probably need more than two of your toughest friends to help. Inflicting pain is about your only hope. And this is what that looks like.
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 7:14 am
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:15 am to
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Controlling a grown man is far from easy. All the armchair UFC fighters on here say these cops should have been able to cuff him in a more gentle manner. I sincerely mean this: try it. Try sometime to hold a grown man down and force his hands behind his back and keep them in place long enough to put cuffs on. You can’t do it, and you would probably need more than two of your toughest friends to help. Inflicting pain is about your only hope. And this is what that looks like. TV has dulled your brains. Never been in a fight or seen one, that’s my guess.


Exactly

I do think police being trained in Brazilian jujitsu would definitely help. But you are still going to have these situations
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12017 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:16 am to
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Some people need there arse kicked


You are right and it is the cops in this video. Where in the law does it say the cops can kick a citizens arse when they get pissed off?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68358 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:17 am to
They stopped when they saw the camera. Douche cops should get dealt with.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53393 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:18 am to
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If he were black, there wouldn't be any video. Dude is from South Carolina and being a dick in Mulberry fricking AR? He's gonna get an arse beating his dirty, hippie arse will remember for awhile...or not at all. They don't frick around up there. I predict not guilty for the officers involved. Outsider being a vagrant a-hole. If he was polite and just wanted a sandwich or some shite, everything would've been fine.


Downvote all you want. That's how it is up there. I'd bet the guy was a trouble maker and had been asked to leave town. When they don't, they get asked more harshly. They'll disappear your arse.



Are you stuck in 1964 or something?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32920 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:19 am to
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You can’t do it, and you would probably need more than two of your toughest friends to help. Inflicting pain is about your only hope. And this is what that looks like

Dude, frick you.

They were literally bashing his head into the pavement.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
20189 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:19 am to
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Inflicting pain is about your only hope. And this is what that looks like.

hey tough guy, did you watch the part where he grabs his hair and smashes his face into the pavement 3-4 times? What did that accomplish, exactly?

Nothing about what he was doing was to get him under control. They were on tilt and fully intent of beating the shite out of him rather than trying to restrain him.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:20 am to
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Controlling a grown man is far from easy.


They had him pinned to the ground with the weight of 3 men on him. He might have still be squirmy and hard to place handcuffs on, but haymakers to the head and slamming the head on the pavement were acts of blatant uncontrolled assault. Perhaps the cops were rightly exasperated by the man’s resistance, but if police officers are subject to the same laws as civilians, they would and should be prosecuted for assault.

The only way to get around this is to argue that cops are a special class of citizen which are above the law…which I’m going to go ahead and assume some of y’all would argue.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:23 am to
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They had him pinned to the ground with the weight of 3 men on him. He might have still be squirmy and hard to place handcuffs on, but haymakers to the head and slamming the head on the pavement were acts of blatant uncontrolled assault. Perhaps the cops were rightly exasperated by the man’s resistance, but if police officers are subject to the same laws as civilians, they would and should be prosecuted for assault. The only way to get around this is to argue that cops are a special class of citizen which are above the law…which I’m going to go ahead and assume some of y’all would argue.


Just fire the cops and move on

Try to institute better training like BJJ, but understand these situations are still going to happen in an age of smart phones and a country of 350 million with mental health problems and drugs.

Trying to prosecute them and burn cops at the stake is going to result in…

Reducing police violence from 0.05% to 0.04% and increasing societal violence from 2% to 4%

The net result is many many more innocent people get hurt. There is no change you can make to reduce these incidents to zero.
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 7:26 am
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21328 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:34 am to
Don’t start no shite, won’t be no shite.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54779 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:40 am to
Despite the narrative, whites are beat up by the cops more.

Nobody will care about this though. Doesn't fit the lie.
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