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This problem affects us all. PDs need accountability. Remember Daniel Shaver.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:33 pm
This movement is centered around blacks but it affects us ALL. It's not just a black issue. Many whites have been victims of police brutality, corruption and murder with no consequences.
Reminder of the Daniel Shaver case in AZ from 2016. Just watch the video, it's all you need to see. The guy is drunk, trying his best to comply with contradicting orders at gunpoint and then executed inside his hotel. The cop was fired, found not guilty, then rehired to collect pension. There is currently no accountability for the police in America. This is why we need these protests (NOT RIOTS). We need change.
There are multiple cameras from the several cops' body cam footage. Here's one on TMZ. Just watch how crazy this shite is.
Bodycam Footage: https://www.tmz.com/2017/12/07/mesa-police-involved-shooting-bodycam-philip-brailsford-not-guilty-daniel-shaver/
Wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver
Reminder of the Daniel Shaver case in AZ from 2016. Just watch the video, it's all you need to see. The guy is drunk, trying his best to comply with contradicting orders at gunpoint and then executed inside his hotel. The cop was fired, found not guilty, then rehired to collect pension. There is currently no accountability for the police in America. This is why we need these protests (NOT RIOTS). We need change.
There are multiple cameras from the several cops' body cam footage. Here's one on TMZ. Just watch how crazy this shite is.
Bodycam Footage: https://www.tmz.com/2017/12/07/mesa-police-involved-shooting-bodycam-philip-brailsford-not-guilty-daniel-shaver/
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In January of 2016, Daniel was executed by police officer, Philip Brailsford, in Mesa, AZ. Daniel's last words, "please don't shoot me" as he crawled towards the officers while crying and begging for his life.
Officer Philip Brailsford had inscribed the words "YOU'RE frickED" on the dust cover his AR-15 he used in Daniel's execution. Daniel was shot five times.
Brailsford was fired by Mesa PD and charged with second-degree murder and later acquitted of all charges. Brailsford was rehired by Mesa police so he could receive an annual (taxpayer-funded) $30,000+ pension for the rest of his life, due to "PTSD" claims for murdering Daniel.
Wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 2:30 pm
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:34 pm to cmayLSU07
Someone needs to Dexter his arse
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:34 pm to cmayLSU07
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:34 pm to cmayLSU07
That’s deep.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:35 pm to cmayLSU07
No, let's not frick up everything over anecdotes
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:36 pm to msutiger
And THAT is what’s wrong with today’s society..........
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:36 pm to cmayLSU07
It starts local
Follow your city council & mayor
They are who sets pay, they are who sets policy & procedure
Push for raises to attract better candidates with higher qualifications
Push for reform on procedures
Push for money spent on training
Follow your city council & mayor
They are who sets pay, they are who sets policy & procedure
Push for raises to attract better candidates with higher qualifications
Push for reform on procedures
Push for money spent on training
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:37 pm to cmayLSU07
Well the victim was white so.......
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:38 pm to cmayLSU07
This is the one that always comes to mind for me. This is the worst example I've seen in my life. It's a horrifying video.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:38 pm to cmayLSU07
The militarization of our police forces is a problem for ALL of us. It totally pisses me off the BLM has taken this as their own problem. It alienates people when we should all before for police reforms like ending the drug war, civil asset forfeiture, no-knock raids, and qualified immunity.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:38 pm to msutiger
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His is by far the most horrifying police brutality video and it received practically zero media coverage
Correct.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:41 pm to gthog61
yeah....plenty of whities get killed by cops
my buddy in college got killed by a cop at BB King's (choke hold)
problem is that a lot of cops are:
A. Poorly trained
B. Ignorant
C. scumbags who abuse their authority
I've been roughed up by the cops twice back in my partying days. Not only that, both times they stole all my cash
and even the good ones look the other way when it comes to calling out the bad ones.
I am sure some of these cops that kill are racist. But a lot of em are probably just morons.
But, when a cop kills a black guy, it makes for good headlines
So, here we are...hate, riots, and reduced playing time for my 8th grader who has a black basketball coach
my buddy in college got killed by a cop at BB King's (choke hold)
problem is that a lot of cops are:
A. Poorly trained
B. Ignorant
C. scumbags who abuse their authority
I've been roughed up by the cops twice back in my partying days. Not only that, both times they stole all my cash
and even the good ones look the other way when it comes to calling out the bad ones.
I am sure some of these cops that kill are racist. But a lot of em are probably just morons.
But, when a cop kills a black guy, it makes for good headlines
So, here we are...hate, riots, and reduced playing time for my 8th grader who has a black basketball coach
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:41 pm to Eat Your Crow
A lot of these police reforms that are needed should be endorsed by both sides. No knock warrants need to be a thing of the past as soon as possible. The drug war was dumb and we need to decriminalize drug users. Investing more heavily in the community instead of militarizing the police is a better method. Qualified immunity should be ended. There is a lot we can agree on if we just listen to each other.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:43 pm to Dam Guide
quote:
There is a lot we can agree on if we just listen to each other.
Agreed.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:46 pm to Dam Guide
quote:
A lot of these police reforms that are needed should be endorsed by both sides.
Agreed. This should have never become about race.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:46 pm to LSUJML
This is the first time i have seen this video. How in the hell did that cop get off. clearly the kid was scared shitless.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:47 pm to cmayLSU07
Where did you get those quotes from
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:47 pm to cmayLSU07
100% agree with OP
This is where I feel BLM really could’ve latched on is that whites are killed just as much even more by police. It could’ve been a unified front instead it’s divide and conquer.
But I now understand why they didn’t want to take unified approach - they are calling for reparations, free college, more money for social programs etc. Things that they could never get if it was a unified white, black, Hispanic, Asian group approach.
This is where I feel BLM really could’ve latched on is that whites are killed just as much even more by police. It could’ve been a unified front instead it’s divide and conquer.
But I now understand why they didn’t want to take unified approach - they are calling for reparations, free college, more money for social programs etc. Things that they could never get if it was a unified white, black, Hispanic, Asian group approach.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:49 pm to gthog61
quote:
No, let's not frick up everything over anecdotes
I'm not saying let's defund PDs across America. I'm just saying we need new laws/reforms to counter this real problem we have. We have to demilitarize the police and set up some kind of real system to hold them accountable. Because clearly they won't do it themselves. I cannot believe this murderer is now collecting taxpayer funded checks for the rest of his life.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:49 pm to cmayLSU07
Sorry, we can't have that talk now. It WAS the perfect time to actually move the needle regarding police violating civilian rights. Even could have gotten a good hard look at ending the war on drugs or at least doing away with some of the lower end of it.
BUT NOOOOOOO! These dummies HAD to riot and ruin it. Now all they will get is more police state because it's what they've earned.
BUT NOOOOOOO! These dummies HAD to riot and ruin it. Now all they will get is more police state because it's what they've earned.
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