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re: This is why the accused BLM terrorist was not already in jail during the Waukesha parade

Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:20 am to
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27130 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:20 am to
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Cut the bullshite centrist act. Every time I’ve seen you argue it’s been damn near in lock step with mainstream progressive ideology. Your side is the left side of the political spectrum.

Your take on bail is very libertarian, but I don’t be piece for one second you’re coming at it from a libertarian foundation. Rather all your posts and arguments lead me to be liege you are coming at it from a restorative justice standpoint and your true belief that minorities just aren’t as capable as whites so therefore you must tilt the scales in their favor.


No, every post you notice. I’ve argued against restorative justice, repeatedly. I’ve called out leftists for bullshite.

But anyone outside of the political dichotomy makes some of you uncomfortable, so you try to force me into a box I don’t come close to fitting in.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261167 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:21 am to
Alaska tried this and it failed in spectacular fashion.

The people literally revolted and voted out those who supported it. I loathe anyone who supports this shite and lives in their ivory tower.

LINK

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Alaska was the first state to implement a mandatory catch-and-release system in 2016 and the bail reform algorithm quickly created dire public safety consequences. One of the bill’s original sponsors, Mia Costello (R-Anchorage) led the charge to repeal several parts of the bill. Alaska Governor Bill Walker signed HB 312 in June which now allows judges to consider out-of-state criminal history and removes mandatory “catch and release”, returning these critical decisions back to the judges where it belongs.
This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 11:24 am
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27130 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:21 am to
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No, you didn't. And you maintaining you did so doesn't change the fact you didn't.


Attacking someone for being an advocate for eliminating monetary bond using an example of someone being released on monetary bond makes zero sense. That’s the point. Better?
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24061 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:23 am to
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Chisholm has long pushed to divert nonviolent offenders away from the prison system with alternate programs, and has spoken previously about reducing the number of incarcerations in Milwaukee County.


It’s probably not a terrible strategy for minor, nonviolent offenses, but clearly he expanded it to cover all crimes considering this fellow’s rap sheet.
This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 11:24 am
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27130 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:23 am to
And to revisit this, I’ve never, not once, pretended to be a centrist. I’m a minarchist libertarian which is about as “not centrist” as it gets short of being a full blown anarcho-capitalist. Pretty much everyone on this board is more of a “centrist” than I am, by fricking definition
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
7398 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:24 am to
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He vowed to investigate how Brooks was given the $1,000 cash bond despite allegedly running the mother of his child “over with his vehicle” in a Milwaukee gas station parking lot on Nov. 2.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261167 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:25 am to
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He vowed to investigate how Brooks was given the $1,000 cash bond despite allegedly running the mother of his child “over with his vehicle” in a Milwaukee gas station parking lot on Nov. 2.


This failure of a system hurts poor people.

Utopians are the absolute worst.
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8447 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:26 am to
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The fact that the current monetary bail system doesn’t keep killers in jail is the fricking point. I’m not sure how some of you don’t understand this.


Dude had a sheet longer than my arm and had just run over his ex with his car.

$100000 bail was appropriate here, not $1000. It works if you don’t apply it like a monkey with an avocado for a brain.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27130 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:28 am to
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Dude had a sheet longer than my arm and had just run over his ex with his car.

$100000 bail was appropriate here, not $1000. It works if you don’t apply it like a monkey with an avocado for a brain.


And then you find out he has $6k cash and puts the other $6k on a payment plan to a bondsmen and then gets out, and then you’re all pissed.

Have a detention hearing like the feds do. He’s either a danger/flight risk or he isn’t. Money has nothing to do with it.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28595 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:30 am to
PROGRESS



PROGRESS
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261167 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:30 am to
quote:


Dude had a sheet longer than my arm and had just run over his ex with his car.


no no on man. 1k is just too much to charge that poor man.

No one will be hurt!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261167 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:31 am to
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PROGRESS



= less brown and black people in jail, and that's all that matters.


Public safety is such a white supremacist ideal.

This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 11:32 am
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14878 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:33 am to
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has spent his career supporting cash-bail system reform because he argues it criminalizes poverty.

In an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel the year he was elected, Chisholm said: “Is there going to be an individual I divert, or I put into treatment program, who’s going to go out and kill somebody?”

“You bet. Guaranteed. It’s guaranteed to happen.





“As long as it’s not my kids, it’s the price I’m willing to pay.”



It’s not about reform, it’s about creating chaos under the guise of equity.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:33 am to
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Have a detention hearing like the feds do. He’s either a danger/flight risk or he isn’t. Money has nothing to do with it.





Seems this point has been pretty clear, but this is the OT.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47528 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:34 am to
quote:

o you try to force me into a box I don’t come close to fitting in.


I fit in to your box.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66968 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:36 am to
are you serious Spleen?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261167 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:36 am to
quote:

are you serious Spleen?


He just wants to agree with the other progressive on the subject.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112699 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:37 am to
Perhaps we can get this guy in a work program so he can come out better?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27130 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:37 am to
quote:

I fit in to your box.


You bitch
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66968 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:37 am to
he’s backpedaling soo hard these days he can’t even form his own opinion in OT threads.
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