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re: This guy gets it, re Travel ball

Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:11 am to
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155233 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:11 am to
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Most kids these days play Tournament Ball,

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Meh. Most kids don’t play travel ball, they play tournament ball

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between travel ball and tournament ball? I always thought it was called travel ball because you traveled to out of town tournaments all the time. Is that not correct?
Posted by Poobear13
Member since Feb 2024
18 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:13 am to
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radwogs


Is this a typo on your part or did they really name a kids team “rawdogs”?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:15 am to
If you want to know who to blame, just look in the mirror
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38953 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:18 am to
quote:

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between travel ball and tournament ball? I always thought it was called travel ball because you traveled to out of town tournaments all the time. Is that not correct?


I think the reference of Tournament Ball is when you play in tournaments on the weekends but maybe they aren't very far. Travel would be more of a thing where you are traveling to out of town or out of state tournaments.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18679 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:25 am to
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Oh bullshite. The majority of Tournament Ball teams are free and coached by parents.


Those tournament entry fees don’t pay themselves
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36321 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:28 am to
oh look another 5 page thread on the OT about travel ball that is full of people talking out their arse saying shite that isnt true....all made by posters who have never had a kid on a team.

Posted by Cell of Awareness
Member since Jan 2024
1067 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:30 am to
Rec is not dead but there are too many places where parents, and in places like Jefferson Parish, politicians, cause issues.

Our park has over 20 teams at most age levels and two travel teams at each age at a competitive level with more travel for one and a more local schedule for the other. Our 7-8 travel teams must play rec.

It just takes parental involvement and parental reason. We serve draft beer at our park because 99 percent of our parents are not staritng a fistfignt over 7 year od Braxxxxton not playing first so he can get drafted by the Yankees. As for kids who have never played that is where parental involvement comes in. Our rec teams tend to have an overflow of volunteers so there are folks who can worj with new kids on the basics so they at least can get in front of a ball and swing with a chance at contact.

I have seen the cliche and it pisses me off. Our travel team is 11 kids who played rec tee ball at the same field at six. We played a team last week that was based in Houston and had kids from California and Arizone on the roster. I was saddest when my kid was 7. We won a WS tournament and I was talking to the parents of the other team and their coach would not let them swim in the pool at the hotel because they might get tired. What a pathetic man to do that to kids. When you are seven, wanting to win is good but hanging out with your team outside of the game is just as important.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 8:28 am
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
174826 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:30 am to
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Many of the coaches are a bunch of tools , who think it's game 7 of the world series.


I’ve seen many of many of these…







At recreational parks
Posted by jmorr34
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
3326 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:34 am to
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I do have a question, though. For the fundraisers like the bullshite “pick a day on the calendar, donate that amount” thing, does the money go into a pot for the whole team? Or does it go to the specific kid whose parent made the post?


This is likely to pay for the following to decrease overall parent costs:

Tournament entry fees
Plate Umpire Fees
Practice field rental
Insurance
Tournament organization annual sanctioning fee
Team equipment
Uniforms

The cost really isn't that much to require a fundraiser in my opinion (1400-2000 per player - avg 10 tournaments). Unless you have paid coaches and the fundraisers are going toward those costs. Some teams like to do one out of state tournament each year which is more like a vacation. Don't see the need for a fundraiser for this either unless you want people to pay for your vacation (majority of costs are hotel/gas/flights/food).
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 9:15 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:35 am to
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We serve draft beer at our park


Trashy
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10723 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:41 am to
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The real participation trophy winners in travel ball are the dads


These are the same assholes who win the pinewood derby for their kids as well.

You dads need to get off your fat asses and go find your own thing to compete in.

Let the kids play and do and succeed or fail by their own skills and efforts.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58298 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:49 am to
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You dads need to get off your fat asses and go find your own thing to compete in.

Most OT at the plant world series
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36321 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:53 am to
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These are the same assholes who win the pinewood derby for their kids as well.

You dads need to get off your fat asses and go find your own thing to compete in.

Let the kids play and do and succeed or fail by their own skills and efforts.


yall are so fricking stupid with this shite

look the good players dont want to play with your son who can barely catch and hit and throws 45 at 12. sorry they dont

its not ruining rec because the good teams dont wanna play. even in the biggest rec leagues travel kids would add 1 or maybe 2 teams....

1) rec league is full of kids who suck. My oldest played and i coached for 8 years. he didnt want to play travel and thats fine but it sucks as a coach to have 12 years olds on the team who have never played before, cant even catch but mom keeps asking why her kid cant play infield or pitch. Rec is full of those kinds of parents. The best kid in the 12 year old league pitched 58, 10 year olds in travel throw that.

2) LL and DY rules suck arse. 12 year olds playing on little arse field with terrible rules. 46/60 sucks for that age, no steals sucks, no leads suck. its just terrible baseball

3) despite what some of you like to claim...some kids actually want to be good at baseball. 99% of dads with kids on travel teams dont want to just give up golf and fishing and other things they could be doing during the spring. They arent living through their kids, such a terrible take. Maybe in AA ball but not on better Tournament teams.

4) 99% of so called travel teams dont ever travel more than 1 hour except for 1-2 times a year because they choose to.

5) its not that expensive, 99% of teams in this state are going to be 2k or less.


most travel kids play multiple sports, very very few play year around(practice and train, sure but not games), and its possible to go to church, make good grades, have family time and still play baseball

oh and no you cant make good hs teams just playing rec ball.

i think i covered all the bullshite
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15521 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:59 am to
Coached rec ball for years up until we started to see the quality players drawn out to play travel or tournament ball. We were left with the dregs and it spiraled downhill.

Kids started hiring private coaches and attending cliniques and parents formed leagues.

It went from a community center type environment to nothing. Kinda sad but it’s the nature of competition. People got tired of the watered down situation at the community center where everyone had to play and winning was not really the goal.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41102 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:59 am to
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All this to say, there should be a more advanced league, however it should stay in baseball season. Put the bat and ball down for 6 months or whatever amount of time.


This. This is my gripe with ALL competitive sports including basketball and 7 on 7. Respect the seasons and let athletes develop into highschool.
Posted by KyleOrtonsMustache
Krystal Baller
Member since Jan 2008
5148 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 8:14 am to
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The death of Rec league is a travesty to kids socially and athletically


If I don't spend thousands of dollars and time so Braxton can play Junior College ball then I'm not a good dad.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
6841 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 8:17 am to
Rarely in my day.. Early 80s. Things changed for the worse. Now, it's a bunch of douchebags that don't let kids be kids. It's just a game..
Posted by Cell of Awareness
Member since Jan 2024
1067 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 8:28 am to
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quote:
We serve draft beer at our park


Trashy


Maybe, but it paid for the turf, lights and a lot more of our expenses.
Posted by deNYEd
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2007
9699 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 8:28 am to
I must admit that the travel ball scene here is somewhat exaggerated. I probably even bought into it at one point. Now that I've experienced it, it's easy to see that although the stereotypes exist, it's also incredibly simple to find a middle ground. My child genuinely loves the game and wants to play every day. He doesn't enjoy playing with kids who pick flowers in the outfield—that's not fun for any kid with a real passion for the sport. We're on a team that lets him play two additional times a week beyond rec league, usually within 15-30 minutes of home, with the occasional trip to Hammond or Baton Rouge. We have a great group of parents, and no one is beating or yelling at the children.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36321 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 8:36 am to
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I must admit that the travel ball scene here is somewhat exaggerated. I probably even bought into it at one point. Now that I've experienced it, it's easy to see that although the stereotypes exist, it's also incredibly simple to find a middle ground. My child genuinely loves the game and wants to play every day. He doesn't enjoy playing with kids who pick flowers in the outfield—that's not fun for any kid with a real passion for the sport. We're on a team that lets him play two additional times a week beyond rec league, usually within 15-30 minutes of home, with the occasional trip to Hammond or Baton Rouge. We have a great group of parents, and no one is beating or yelling at the children.



not possible...the OT is full of people with no kids but they heard it was terrible and even though you have a kid in it, you have no clue wtf you are talking about

we must roll the clock back 40 years and only play sports like the OT approves of!!!
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