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They need to make up their GD mind

Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:26 am
Posted by HarveyBanger
Member since Mar 2018
1277 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:26 am
Closing businesses which some will likely never recover in the name of social distancing in order to prevent our healthcare systems from being over loaded. Millions lose their jobs.

Now, writing articles about how hospital workers are being laid off or hospital closed all together because they are completely empty.

So which one is it? This is retarded.

Open the god damn country.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:27 am to
I hope you have a mask on whilst posting this.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33435 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:28 am to
Not particularly interested in wading into a debate about whether all of this is a good idea, but I do want to clarify one thing:

People are afraid that our capacity for intensive/emergency care will be overloaded. Doctors/nurses who don't work in intensive/emergency care are seeing economic hardship because elective medicine is currently being avoided.

They aren't actually contradictory realities.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11893 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:30 am to
quote:

People are afraid that our capacity for intensive/emergency care will be overloaded. Doctors/nurses who don't work in intensive/emergency care are seeing economic hardship because elective medicine is currently being avoided.

They aren't actually contradictory realities.


This x 1,000. I wait every day for my wife to be furloughed. They are doing some telemedicine and still doing teaching seminars, but I assume they are bleeding cash right now.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
11748 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:30 am to
My wife is am ICU nurse. She has made about 4 months of salary in 4 weeks.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:30 am to
ED’s in areas of the country that aren’t hot spots are reducing hours/staffing.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109006 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Closing businesses which some will likely never recover in the name of social distancing in order to prevent our healthcare systems from being over loaded. Millions lose their jobs.

Now, writing articles about how hospital workers are being laid off or hospital closed all together because they are completely empty.

So which one is it? This is retarded.



They're not exactly mutually exclusive.

Staffing used for elective procedures aren't working in the ICU. Or someone answering the phone in a orthopedist's office.

The social distancing is doing what it's supposed to do, flattening the curve to prevent the hospitals from getting overloaded. That was the whole point, not to magically cure the virus.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 11:32 am
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61820 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:35 am to
Too Late:

Just got this transcribed VoiceMail from Gov Johns Bell Edwards.


“...this forest knows no boundaries...”
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 11:38 am
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:35 am to
It's the same dumb thread every day now.

The economy will likely begin reopening in early May. Reopening it immediately and entirely would likely render everything suffered to this point moot. When the economy reopens, it will be a gradual process. This is pretty much the message being conveyed by every serious public actor right now.

While the plan needs to be firmed up, there isn't a lot of "back and forth" like people are implying.

And the hospital argument is stupid, as you explain well.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:36 am to
quote:

ED’s in areas of the country that aren’t hot spots are reducing hours/staffing.



But how much of this is truly impacted by restrictions now? I suspect people are going to voluntarily avoid EDs as much as possible even when reopening begins.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66663 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:37 am to
Is Vonage bad at translating or is john bell a moron. I cant read that
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:37 am to
quote:

People are afraid that our capacity for intensive/emergency care will be overloaded. Doctors/nurses who don't work in intensive/emergency care are seeing economic hardship because elective medicine is currently being avoided.

They aren't actually contradictory realities.


Yep, and it's not like an RN that normally works the pediatric unit has the proper training to be an ER nurse.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61820 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Is Vonage bad at translating or is john bell a moron. I cant read that
40%/60%
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
62207 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:40 am to
quote:

It's the same dumb thread every day now.


Yeah, I’ve been saying that. Mostly to a chorus of downvotes.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:45 am to
I get the frustration, and I certainly don't think the government response is above criticism. But most of what we're seeing is emotional outbursts that aren't really grounded in any facts/policy positions/etc.

From the outset lines were drawn where COVID-19 precautions were inherently statist/anti-Trump, regardless of whether they were from people on Trump's team or Trump himself. And that legacy is continuing, where half this board would squander everything done to date just to stick it to some largely imaginary boogeyman because all the epidemiologists are really just Hillary supporters, etc.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61883 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:45 am to
I’m giving a lot of free passes out right now because this is truly unprecedented in history, and people are simply trying to do the responsible thing as it pertains to actual human life. Nobody knows much, but emotional Knee jerk reactions aren’t necessarily what I would think is going to be the best answer to any of this.
Posted by Tigre85
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2019
2121 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 11:53 am to
Speaking the Lord's name in vain is a mortal sin . Not sure if that is good idea right now .
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

proper training to be an ER nurse


I mean.
RN is a community college degree.

How hard can it be to train a nurse for an ICU role?
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 12:04 pm
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
17195 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:01 pm to
Texas governor coming out with a plan this week to start the process of getting businesss back open. Meanwhile, Austin’s idiot mayor released an order extending the stay at home while adding a mandatory mask when in public yesterday.
Posted by Purplehaze
spring, tx
Member since Dec 2003
2395 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:28 pm to
You do not know what is happening in Austin. You have no right to be critical, it's the local electorate doing what they feel is best.

In hindsight, Mardi Gras should have been cancelled. Of course you are going to say how important that is to the economy. We have to get the Louisiana economy up and running. Of course you are unable to ask the opinion of the 1,104 who have died. But what the hell, that's not much of a price to pay so you can get back to work.

Unless you end up with it and become #1,105. But what the hell, sacrificing your life so others can work is very noble. Right?

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