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There's too much dirt in the Mississippi River

Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:26 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:26 pm
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Essentially... the river bottom just south of the control structure has risen dramatically due to sediment deposits.

This would seem to have a very simple solution: Just dredge it now, and dredge it on a regular basis. The Corps dredges the river south of NOLA all the time in order to maintain the shipping channel.

Am I missing something here that makes this more complex than it seems?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51647 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:26 pm to
I blame Minnesota. frick them.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
179940 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:27 pm to
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There's too much dirt in the Mississippi River



yet our coast is eroding.

thanks levees.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38535 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:27 pm to
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I blame Minnesota. frick them.


Al Franken did this.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:29 pm to
Thanks Mitch....fricking statues fault
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30760 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:30 pm to
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I blame Minnesota. frick them.


I'm pretty sure most of the silt comes from the Ohio river.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:31 pm to
That's some good dirt too...
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:32 pm to
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Am I missing something here that makes this more complex than it seems?


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The first is to mine the sediment where the river bottom is too high and narrow below the river control structure and from the sand bars between the structure and Vicksburg and pumping it hundreds of miles through a pipeline to the south, where it can be used for the state's coastal restoration program.


Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:32 pm to
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Just dredge it now, and dredge it on a regular basis.


They do. Its dredged all the way up to Baton Rouge

quote:

The Corps dredges the river south of NOLA all the time in order to maintain the shipping channel.


The river is dredged just as much, if not more, above NOLA to maintain the shipping channel.

After high river, there are dredges non stop in the channels when the river is low
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9504 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:33 pm to
Well it’s not like we’re using it anyway.

Louisiana sits on the most valuable internal waterway in the United States and our economy is dog shite.

You’d think companies would love easy access to our waterways to receive inbound materials via the Mississippi and export via the gulf but our citizenry and elected officials are too stupid to make it happen.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:33 pm to
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That's some good dirt too...


Sometimes.

A large chunk of it is just sand that isn't worth a damn for agricultural use.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:33 pm to
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Another alternative is to set off dynamite charges along the elevated river bottom during high river periods,


Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:34 pm to
This has been a known "want" of the River for decades.


Edit: "This" being the Mississippi's primary flow "wanting" to divert down the Atchafalaya basin.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:34 pm to
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There's too much dirt in the Mississippi River


quote:

yet our coast is eroding.

thanks levees.


And Oyster Fishermen
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17858 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:36 pm to
That would be an very "Louisiana" thing to happen.

State spends billions on diversions and coastal restoration. Then the river changes paths making it all essentially worthless.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104485 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:38 pm to
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State spends billions on diversions and coastal restoration. Then the river changes paths making it all essentially worthless.


Nah, they'd just spend billions more diverting it back.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45206 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:39 pm to
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Am I missing something here that makes this more complex than it seems?
Money. Who finna pay for that dreggin shite?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58631 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Essentially... the river bottom just south of the control structure has risen dramatically due to sediment deposits.

This would seem to have a very simple solution: Just dredge it now, and dredge it on a regular basis. The Corps dredges the river south of NOLA all the time in order to maintain the shipping channel.

Am I missing something here that makes this more complex than it seems?


If you own a dredger you are set for life. they pay dredgers to dredge the river 365 and just deposit it back into the water column. Look at the one West of Downtown BR. Always there. Just moves around. Just depositing back into the water column. Just getting paid.

The Corp is basically against someone paying for the extra pump/pipe to deposit to a different area then what the Corp has permits for. So the deposits get dredged to one location then you have to dredge from there to the location you want. When it would have been cheaper to just reroute the first dredges pipe.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 3:30 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41703 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:40 pm to
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They do. Its dredged all the way up to Baton Rouge


Right... this issue is north of BR... so seems they can just run the dredges further upriver.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:42 pm to
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