re: There are still 170 plus missing in Texas post flood.

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I keep seeing this pic. At first I thought some dick photoshopped it. But nobody said that it was and it still keeps popping up.

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It's not 'shopped. It really is that bad. There is another one of a VFD member's Jeep Gladiator where about all you can see is the partially torn away steering wheel sticking out of the sediment. Guy was apparently trying to make it to his station.

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You don't understand a flash flood. Doesn't happen in MS or LA.

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Yeah, this. I grew up in AL and GA, have lived in the Hill Country for 30+ years. You know how your gutters can be gushing water in a light rain because the roof drains it all to a few places? That's the way the rocky Hill Country is. Flooding in the Deep South, while bad, is tame in comparison. Water in this case rose at the rate of 1' per minute in places. By the time you wake up, realize something is wrong, and start to act, you're already in trouble if not dead.

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We collected canned goods and things like socks, undies, etc at my church this morning and I brought them to the local fire dept that was doing a "collection of the collections".

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Good for you

A lot of the crews that have come from out of state and out of country to assist have been told to stand down as of yesterday. Lampassas river is also flooding currently.

the timing of the event had a lot to do with the fatalities. had it happened in the afternoon, I suspect a lot more people would've survived. but they were sleeping

This one feels especially cruel.

-July 4 (one of the busiest summer vacation days)
-Middle of the night (no sun)
-Summer (when kids are out of school and people travel)
-Small children in summer camp (wish it would have happened in March or October when they weren't there)
-Area hardly gets much rain in general but a storm that keeps regenerating on the same spot over and over producing a ton of rain
-Alarms not in place to alert people
-Many in RVs easily swept away

Reminds me of that line in Signs movie that M.Night Shamalyan charachter said to Mel Gibson when he was talking about how he hit his wife.
"I worked so long that night. I ain't never fallen asleep driving before. And never since. Most of the ride home, there wasn't a car in sight in either direction. If I'd fallen asleep then, I'd a ended up in a ditch with a head ache. It had to happen at that right moment. That certain ten-fifteen seconds when I passed her walking. It was like it was meant to be."

Its chilling. It was the recipe for the perfect storm. Its eerie when you let yourself think about things that seem unthinkable and can't understand why things happen.

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Saw this picture the other day, pretty much gave me an idea of how so many could still be missing. Just horrible.

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This picture really put it into context for me. I didn't understand how so many people could still be missing. I've never experienced anything like this but my brain thought once the water goes down then it's just trees and debris. Had no idea recovery efforts would look like this.

A close friend's son was a counselor at Camp LaJunta...he said water came up just to the rafters in his cabin but then quickly went down 10 feet after a short period of time. At least two dead bodies were found on LaJunta...they were people that were upstream and floated down.

Yeah i still remember as a kid playing in my grandparents creek as a kid. This was near Georgetown Texas. One day the water just started coming in faster. I went to walk through it like i always did. Then got swept away. Thankfully a barb wire fence went through the creek. I caught that. Then used it to pull myself out. I was maybe 9 or 10 and alone in the back acres. But after i told my grandparents they wouldn't let me go that far without my uncle.
The water went from a few inches deep to a few feet deep in a few minutes.

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A close friend's son was a counselor at Camp LaJunta

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There were some real horror stories from there. Thankfully, they all survived.

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I’ve seen Lake Travis get down below 630 multiple times thinking it would never refill. It’ll be at full pool by the end of the week. That’s 50ft of water in less than a month. Seems like everytime it’s filled, it does so in a matter of a couple weeks.

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Same here. I was talking with some folks just a couple of weeks ago and we were wondering when it would ever be full again and bam here we are.

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Or buried under several feet of sand and soil and will never be found, unfortunately.

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This has to be the reason. As macabre as it sounds, I'd like to see a map with the locations of where the people went missing and then a map of where bodies have been found. If people were lost farther down the river it can make sense they may have been transported all the way to Canyon Lake.

And as some have said, there could be missing under the feet of sand and gravel bars that were deposited.

170 people is a bunch to go missing.