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re: The workforce shortage is real and ridiculous
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:55 am to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:55 am to Vacherie Saint
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who is talking about fricking mid career pipe welders in the oil field?
I didn't mention the oil field
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Try to stay on topic or stfu. The average american welder makes $17.90 per hour
You can bet that average will be going up soon
That's shite pay
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:56 am to dyslexiateechur
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My youngest went looking for a job and literally couldn’t get one. I guess people aren’t that hard up.
What KIND OF Job? If my dumbass 15 yr old kid tried to find a job cutting flowers for $15/hour on Tuesdays and Thursdays between 6pm-8pm, he might fail.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:56 am to Powerman
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You can bet that average will be going up soon
That's shite pay
This is sad. Just admit you were wrong. Its liberating.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:56 am to Overbrook
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Wages are simply too low; but, oh no, can't let supply and demand work when it comes to labor markets.
Wages weren't too low before the pandemic. "Supply and demand" will work just fine if the government stops sending people the equivalent of $15/hr.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:56 am to Vacherie Saint
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This is sad. Just admit you were wrong. Its liberating.
It's shite pay for a skilled profession
ETA and your 16-17 is still below that average so even shittier
This post was edited on 6/14/21 at 8:58 am
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:57 am to thadcastle
Tried going out to eat last night and walk into a restaurant where at least half the tables were empty. Had a few other parties in the entrance area waiting to be seated too. Hostess says its 45 minutes to an hour wait. Obviously very understaffed. Went outside and called 3 or 4 other nearby restaurants just to check before we went and all had similar wait times.
No reason to keep these supplemental unemployment benefits going. The vast majority of people getting benefits could apply for a job today and start tomorrow with the number of places desperately trying to hire.
No reason to keep these supplemental unemployment benefits going. The vast majority of people getting benefits could apply for a job today and start tomorrow with the number of places desperately trying to hire.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:58 am to Vacherie Saint
We’ve been trying to hire a few new dental assistants over the past few months. $25/ hr with no experience up to $30/hr with.
In the last two months we have received exactly 0 resumes.
Every dental office in the area is in the same boat.
In the last two months we have received exactly 0 resumes.
Every dental office in the area is in the same boat.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:58 am to Horsemeat
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Think about that - $400/week for two months away from home and family, no benefits, camera in their faces, stuck with a trainer they don't know while working 60-70 hours per week.
For OJT training? 2 months? Not an issue. Anyone thinking long term would have no issue with it.
This highlights a problem. People don't want to pay their dues to learn a trade anymore.
This post was edited on 6/14/21 at 8:59 am
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:59 am to CptRusty
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Wages weren't too low before the pandemic. "Supply and demand" will work just fine if the government stops sending people the equivalent of $15/hr.
I believe you're going to be proven wrong on this note
A lot of people will refuse to work for low wages now
And honestly that's not a terrible thing
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:59 am to Powerman
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I believe you're going to be proven wrong on this note
A lot of people will refuse to work for low wages now
I'm sure you think so.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:59 am to CptRusty
Its back door UBI, as far as I see it.
They will force states to reject the UI benefits. This prolongs benefits to the point that employers are forced to increase pay to borderline unsustainable levels in order to keep the doors open. The problem is, many million of small businesses wont survive, there will be less jobs, rampant inflation, and massive federal debt to pay.
They will force states to reject the UI benefits. This prolongs benefits to the point that employers are forced to increase pay to borderline unsustainable levels in order to keep the doors open. The problem is, many million of small businesses wont survive, there will be less jobs, rampant inflation, and massive federal debt to pay.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:01 am to Overbrook
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Wages are simply too low; but, oh no, can't let supply and demand work when it comes to labor markets.
What’s going on now isn’t supply and demand dumb arse.
What’s going on now is joe couldn’t get his minimum wage law passed so he used an end around to set the minimum wage at $15/hour.
Take the government thumb off the scale and let people get evicted and have some hunger in their bellies and see how many of these jobs get filled.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:01 am to CptRusty
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I'm sure you think so.
Inflation will inevitably be tied to wages one way or another
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:01 am to Powerman
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It's shite pay for a skilled profession
ETA and your 16-17 is still below that average so even shittier
Your personal opinion about whether american welders are paid fairly is fricking less than meaningless. it certainly doesnt make your "shitty at recruiting" comment any more witty.
This post was edited on 6/14/21 at 9:02 am
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:03 am to Adam Banks
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Take the government thumb off the scale and let people get evicted and have some hunger in their bellies and see how many of these jobs get filled.
Their thumb will still be on the scale. The scale it favors will just be for the business owners and executives.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:03 am to thadcastle
Those are crummy jobs. Of course nobody wants them.
Office jobs can take their pick of the litter.
Office jobs can take their pick of the litter.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:03 am to Vacherie Saint
I'm not going to get in the same debate with a bunch of high school educated posters again, but the overarching point is the labor shortage and inflation aren't simple problems. There's a whole host of things causing them, some here in the US and some globally. Any idiot that thinks he solved the problem during his 15 minutes union break from the plant on Hwy 30, is just that, an idiot.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:03 am to Vacherie Saint
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Its back door UBI, as far as I see it.
It is exactly this. Everyone with a brain who listened to Andrew Yang for 5 minutes was able to predict *exactly* what is happening right now, and we were all told "No way, that's not true, people will still work even if we give them money"
The real gaslighting is of course the big brains flatly denying that the expanded unemployment payments have anything to do with the labor shortage...as if we didn't have record low unemployment and a booming economy before the pandemic.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:04 am to Powerman
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That's actually really good for a starter job
Yep, considering the current minimum wage in La. is $7.25 an hour, that is just over double minimum wage.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
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For OJT training? 2 months? Not an issue. Anyone thinking long term would have no issue with it.
This highlights a problem. People don't want to pay their dues to learn a trade anymore.
So you're saying that people should voluntarily work for LESS THAN MINIMUM WAGE WITH NO HEALTH, LIFE, DENTAL INSURANCE IN ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS PROFESSIONS IN THE WORLD FOR TWO MONTHS while trying to support a family? People can't afford to do that and the companies need to pay more to attract labor. Its not that hard to understand, but please continue to white knight for a corporation that doesn't give a shite about anything but their stock price. Their trainees die and they cant be bothered to ship the corpse home for their family. It's ridiculous what companies like Swift, JB Hunt, KLLM, Werner, etc have done to this industry.
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