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re: The Webb Search for Extraterrestrial Life Has Begun
Posted on 7/27/22 at 11:07 am to Kentucker
Posted on 7/27/22 at 11:07 am to Kentucker
Such hubris. And there's no way to actually confirm it. It will be like, "Based on A, B and C evidence, there is a 95% chance there is life on Planet F." frick all that shite. They have been so wrong about planets in our own solar system. I have zero faith they will be accurate about what's happening 40 light years away.
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 10:51 pm
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 11:13 am to Kentucker
If the Webb scope finds intelligent life on any of the Trappist planets Washington will find a way to tax them.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 11:28 am to Liberator
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Because... NASA (like any gummint agency) gets off on extending what's still an ongoing big joke. They've been jerking around the same True Believers who've been awaiting for another "Lunar / "Martian" manned landing for 50 years. Webb "Images" that are about 5% better than the Hubble -- and now an official, "Search for ET/Alien Life") is supposed to pacify Nasa-Fanbois. (wasn't it just a couple years ago when "Aliens" was still a "kooky conspiracy"?? But NOW it's actually taken seriously...)
Good lord. Doesn’t surprise me that you didn’t take the time to read anything before reacting this way. NASA did not release these. A Redditor took raw data and made this picture.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 11:29 am to Kentucker
Do you or others in your community think Webb will find evidence of advanced civilizations? Thanks for your input thus far.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 11:38 am to JackieTreehorn
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I'm with Steve Hawking on this whole thing. We should immediately cease and desist all efforts to search or contact extraterrestrial life. I don't feel like getting vaporized.
Way too late for that. We've been been leaking radio signals into space since the first uses of radar in the 1940s.
So any aliens within 80 light years could already know we're here and there's no way of stopping those radio signals from expanding farther.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 11:39 am to deltaland
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An interesting thought. Could you perfect human cloning and robotics to a point where you send a machine programmed to find habitable planets in far away galaxies and clone humans using preserved dna material upon reaching those planets? And care for those humans as parents? It would take millions of years but it could be a way.
Either that or figure out a way to travel at light speed with a ship that is self sustaining I.e can generate oxygen and grow crops. You could then reach some nearby solar systems in a few hundred years if you had volunteers willing to get on a ship and have a few generations live on just the ship their whole lives.
It is not logical that we, as biological creatures, can ever migrate to another world or solar system. We are just too tightly bound to this planet.
Fortunately, we are almost at the technological stage where we can build our successors, machine life. When that happens, they’ll be able to traverse the Universe safely.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:13 pm to Kentucker
“The ultra-cool red dwarf”
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:15 pm to HeadSlash
Many nerds are whacking it to that photo.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:17 pm to GroGan
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Do you or others in your community think Webb will find evidence of advanced civilizations? Thanks for your input thus far.
No. There are an incredible number of filters through which life must pass before it can get to the stage at which we currently reside, a conscious biological organism.
We now stand at the door of the toughest filter we’ve faced so far. This filter is a metaphorical mirror that is forcing us to look at and examine ourselves, our purpose and our fate.
We see ourselves as the zenith of evolution. We have the most complex brain in the known Universe.
We think our purpose is to do what we’ve always done here on earth, wander, conquer and multiply. We don’t yet see the limitations of being biological creatures.
I see our fate being a species trapped in our earthly environment, just like every other biological creature that has evolved and adapted to it.
With the evolution of our big brains, we have essentially stopped changing. There is no way we can take these big brains into the Universe and we don’t have the time to naturally evolve even bigger brains. We can try to genetically engineer even bigger brains but they’ll still remain locked to earth.
The logical evolutionary progression of our intelligent species is to design a machine intelligence to the point that it can take over and create a successor species to ourselves. It will have no limits to going anywhere and learning anything.
We may very well be the first civilization who has gotten to this filter. It may be our species that seeds our galaxy with super-intelligent explorers.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:19 pm to deltaland
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An interesting thought. Could you perfect human cloning and robotics to a point where you send a machine programmed to find habitable planets in far away galaxies and clone humans using preserved dna material upon reaching those planets? And care for those humans as parents? It would take millions of years but it could be a way.
So you watched Raised by Wolves on HBO MAX.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:20 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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Way too late for that. We've been been leaking radio signals into space since the first uses of radar in the 1940s.
So any aliens within 80 light years could already know we're here and there's no way of stopping those radio signals from expanding farther.
Also, the presence of life on earth has been discernible for billions of years because of biological life processes.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:23 pm to Kentucker
I think our search is too narrowly tailored and makes false assumptions. While earth-like planets would be suitable for life (since we know life exists on earth), it doesn’t mean those would be the only places suitable for life. There could be intelligent specifies living hundred of miles below the service of ice moons like Europa for all we know. If we accept life evolves, it should be able to do it almost anywhere a single cell organism can survive.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:35 pm to jbraua
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I think our search is too narrowly tailored and makes false assumptions.
The issue is we can only search for life light years away via telescope which displays markers of the carbon-based lifeforms we understand. The focus is narrow because of this. If we were able to visit or send probes to these planets we might be able to recognize life that meets none of our expectations.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:38 pm to jbraua
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I think our search is too narrowly tailored and makes false assumptions. While earth-like planets would be suitable for life (since we know life exists on earth), it doesn’t mean those would be the only places suitable for life. There could be intelligent specifies living hundred of miles below the service of ice moons like Europa for all we know. If we accept life evolves, it should be able to do it almost anywhere a single cell organism can survive.
Well, sure, we just don’t have enough information to definitively say much about life elsewhere, yet. After all, our date set is 1.
If we do begin to find exoplanets with life in our neighborhood, however, we may be able to start drawing some conclusions about the rules that govern its evolution.
For example, is the presence of liquid water a rule? How about oxygen and carbon dioxide?
Must a planet be a certain size and have a rocky composition?
Is a moon necessary?
These and thousands of other questions that we’ve been asking for ages may become answerable in the coming years because of a host of advanced telescopes that are going online in the near future.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:52 pm to Kentucker
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That’s not possible with our system
Where can I access this data that I will not understand?
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:54 pm to Kentucker
It doesn’t change anything for me. I believe in God/Jesus Christ/Holy Spirit. Faith is required. Faith will be tested. For those looking for another reason not to place their faith in the Almighty God, they will have it. At least, they will have yet another of man’s illusions to place their faith in. Many will be deceived. More prophecy fulfilled.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 12:59 pm to Tempratt
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:00 pm to Jake88
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It's amazing how much "g" resembles earth. What a telescope!
I think "e" resembles earth!!! I bet there is even a Sonic on "e", buddy!~
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:06 pm to hubertcumberdale
quote:NASA didn't release this image. The data that Webb collects can be downloaded by anyone, and this image was produced by an amateur using the raw data.
Lmfao why do they even release these? Just say your team is analyzing the data
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:33 pm to Kentucker
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We may know very soon, if not from Trappist then some other system, whether we’ve got close neighbors in the galaxy.
"And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!"
Monty Python - Galaxy Song
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