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The US will offer Merchant of Death Viktor Bout in exchange for Griner & Paul Whelan

Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115738 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:42 pm
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After months of internal debate, the Biden administration has offered to exchange Viktor Bout, a convicted Russian arms trafficker serving a 25-year US prison sentence, as part of a potential deal to secure the release of two Americans held by Russia, Brittney Griner and Paul Whelan, according to people briefed on the matter.

These sources told CNN that the plan to trade Bout for Whelan and Griner received the backing of President Joe Biden after being under discussion since earlier this year. Biden’s support for the swap overrides opposition from the Department of Justice, which is generally against prisoner trades.

“We communicated a substantial offer that we believe could be successful based on a history of conversations with the Russians,” a senior administration official told CNN Wednesday. “We communicated that a number of weeks ago, in June.”

The official declined to comment on the specifics of the “substantial offer.” They said it was in Russia’s “court to be responsive to it, yet at the same time that does not leave us passive, as we continue to communicate the offer at very senior levels.”

“It takes two to tango. We start all negotiations to bring home Americans held hostage or wrongfully detained with a bad actor on the other side. We start all of these with somebody who has taken a human being American and treated them as a bargaining chip,” the official said. “So in some ways, it’s not surprising, even if it’s disheartening, when those same actors don’t necessarily respond directly to our offers, don’t engage constructively in negotiations.”

The families of Whelan, who has been held by Russia for alleged espionage since 2018, and WNBA star Griner, jailed in Moscow for drug possession since February, have urged the White House to secure their release, including via a prisoner exchange if necessary.


Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95366 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:42 pm to
They will also get an American hostage to be named later.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37359 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:43 pm to
Pass. Russia can keep both of them.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120262 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:43 pm to
This is worse than the Bagwell trade
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:44 pm to
Glad we’ve got our priorities straight
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72065 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:44 pm to
WTF?!

What a dumb fricking trade.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:44 pm to
I think it'll take a pick swap or two to get the deal done. If we start throwing in unprotected picks, I'm going to be pissed
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
13910 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:44 pm to
We better be getting multiple first round picks for taking that malcontent back
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150710 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:45 pm to
I fricking knew we would release that piece of shite "Merchant of Death" dude. As soon as it was brought up weeks ago, you knew this administration had the audacity to do something that stupid. Yay.


ETA: If you're an American in Russia, the time to GTFO is right now. Now that the Russian government knows the pussified US will play ball with negotiations and trade of prisoners, any American over there seems like fair game. And that goes for other countries too...any country in which we have political prisoners in the US can now view Americans there as bait.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 1:57 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112617 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:45 pm to
Can’t wait to tell my wife’s son. He will want to wear his Griner jersey to school tomorrow.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36610 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:45 pm to
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Paul Whelan,


who?

quote:

Paul Nicholas Whelan is a Canadian


what a horrible trade for us
Posted by Fox McCloud
Member since Oct 2020
3525 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:46 pm to
They should have to give us another arms dealer or compensation for us to take back griener. Stupid trade
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:46 pm to
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Viktor Bout, 
does he have to be alive? Just give them his remains at the trade and if they say shite kill everyone there
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115738 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29287 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:47 pm to
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the Biden administration has offered to exchange Viktor Bout, a convicted Russian arms trafficker serving a 25-year US prison sentence, as part of a potential deal to secure the release of two Americans held by Russia, Brittney Griner and Paul Whelan, according to people briefed on the matter.


The merchant of death? Seems like a real good guy… just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Glad it’s gonna work out for him after all

Seriously frick this shite
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65890 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:47 pm to
trading humans just seems wrong.
Posted by JescoWhite
Ripped Out Of The Frame
Member since Jul 2011
766 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:49 pm to
Rob Pelinka must be brokering this deal.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17134 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:51 pm to
Worst move?:

1. Obama giving $1B to Iran
2. Biden trading Russian Arms dealer for a WBB player
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83558 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:51 pm to
We should have just traded one of the millions of people currently arrested for weed in our own jail system
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38763 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Obama giving $1B to Iran

it was their money
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Biden trading Russian Arms dealer for a WBB player
they are US citizens deserving of intervention. if it were you over there you'd want to come home too
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