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re: The U.S. does not have a housing shortage, it has a crime problem shrinking livable areas

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Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:28 pm to
For those that claim we have too many incarcerated, yet again proof we do not have nearly enough incarcerated. the lasting legacy of Lyndon B. Johnson.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14906 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:29 pm to
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The response from Democrats:

“That’s racist”



The Democrats/pedophiles are the root of the problem.
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 9:38 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:30 pm to
Hence Baton Rouge continued decline
Posted by joseywales1
Member since Apr 2021
103 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:40 pm to
the only thing that isn't relevant is your reply.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33945 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:52 pm to
Well that’s a stupid argument.

So an owner dies with no heirs, and no one wants the house. It sits empty.

Are you arguing that the “choice” is with any person who chooses not to buy it?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:54 pm to
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yet again proof we do not have nearly enough incarcerated


Locking down repeat offenders for decades would go a long way. Its the same dudes in and out of the system causing most of the crime.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41329 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 9:24 pm to
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Are you arguing that the “choice” is with any person who chooses not to buy it?


Yes. Are you arguing someone choosing not to buy something is not a choice?

And are you claiming 40+% of empty lots are empty because of condemnation or something similar to the scenario you just laid out?
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33945 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 9:35 pm to
In your stupid twisted logic, even the decision to condemn it by the government is by choice.

If it’s burned down, that’s a choice.

Crack house? They chose.

You are being obtuse and obscuring the point.

Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31784 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 9:46 pm to
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spend money to fix it




Money ain't gonna buy us as solution to this problem.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46259 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 9:46 pm to
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Also, here’s a novel idea… maybe 100% of the wealthiest country on Earth should be safe. Crazy idea I know.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34220 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 9:54 pm to
Gov’t loves to put up Section 8 housing near desirable neighborhoods which exacerbates this issue.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41329 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 10:03 pm to
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In your stupid twisted logic, even the decision to condemn it by the government is by choice. If it’s burned down, that’s a choice. Crack house? They chose. You are being obtuse and obscuring the point.


Like your point that there’s plenty of room in the rural areas and not the suburbs but ignoring the fact that most of the suburbs used to be the rural areas?

I’m arguing semantics with you because your actual points aren’t worth arguing over yet you’re so convinced you’re correct.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41329 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 10:04 pm to
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Money ain't gonna buy us as solution to this problem.


What I more meant was leadership won’t up the policing, up the infrastructural improvements, basically won’t do their fricking job
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41329 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 10:05 pm to
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Gov’t loves to put up Section 8 housing near desirable neighborhoods which exacerbates this issue.


Because in the central planner’s minds, everyone deserves to live in a beautiful, well run area, even if they actively made their last area worse.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33945 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 10:18 pm to
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most of the suburbs used to be the rural areas?


The cities used to be rural areas. It all used to be vacant land.

Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
4053 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 11:36 pm to
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The response from Democrats: “That’s racist”


From their expensive, walled off enclaves.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38422 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 12:03 am to
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The U.S. does not have a housing shortage, it has a crime problem shrinking livable areas
Some of the stats don't seem to support your narrative:

There are more than 16 million vacant housing units in the U.S. (16,078,532).

5.8% of rental units are vacant, while 1.4% of homeowner units are vacant — a 314% difference.

The overall vacancy rate in the U.S. is 11.6%.
The most vacant city is Orlando, Florida, with an overall vacancy rate of 15.3% and 160,952 vacant housing units.
Seven metros have an overall vacancy rate that exceeds the national rate of 11.6%:

Orlando, Florida (15.27%)
Miami (14.75%)
Tampa, Florida (13.71%)
Birmingham, Alabama (13.23%)
New Orleans (13.1%)
Riverside, California (12.13%)
Jacksonville, Florida (11.87%)

Florida tops our list of most vacant cities:

Four of the seven cities with vacancy rates exceeding the national average are in Florida.

Forty-three of the 50 most-populous U.S. metros have an overall vacancy rate lower than the national average of 11.6%.
The least vacant city is Minneapolis, with an overall vacancy rate of 4.6%

LINK
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7205 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 2:44 am to
In Austin it’s the Homeless problem. Taxes on housing to high for there to be any ghettos
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85731 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 5:24 am to
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You don’t have a right to live in a city. If you can’t afford it, move elsewhere



This isn’t what’s happening. Your tax $ is paying to house people in the cities.

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85731 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 5:29 am to
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Some of the stats don't seem to support your narrative: There are more than 16 million vacant housing units in the U.S. (16,078,532). 5.8% of rental units are vacant, while 1.4% of homeowner units are vacant — a 314% difference. The overall vacancy rate in the U.S. is 11.6%. The most vacant city is Orlando, Florida, with an overall vacancy rate of 15.3% and 160,952 vacant housing units. Seven metros have an overall vacancy rate that exceeds the national rate of 11.6%:



All those empty houses in Martha’s Vineyard, yet couldn’t handle a few immigrants. How is the country to cope?
This post was edited on 2/11/23 at 5:30 am
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