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re: The "Those Poor People In Retail Have To Work On Thanksgiving" Whining Has Begun

Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:26 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49813 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:26 am to
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teachers too
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Good lord they are overworked and underpaid



I don't these automatic denigrations of teachers. I have never once heard a teacher 'whine' about being 'overworked and underpaid.'

I have a heard teachers defend themselves against allegations that they have a 'soft job' and 'get the whole summer off.'

I spent 35 years as an aerospace engineer. You wouldn't believe the amount of unsolicited whining about being underpaid I heard. There were constant complaints about being overworked (that part was true.)

I spent the last 12 years of my working life as a high school math teacher. I never once heard a teacher whine about 'being underpaid.' I did hear about - and join in on the frustrations of being overworked. There was "shop-talk' and 'black humor' discussion amongst ourselves about the lousy conditions, but those were primarily about the the incompetent parentage of our students and the inability of our administration from protecting us from their complaints.

I suspect most teachers react the same as I do - when I hear some idiot come out on an anonymous message board with their canned screed denigrating teachers as 'being paid to much for the job they do" or 'having a soft job that doesn't deserve much pay' I feel compelled to lend some truth and first hand experience to the discussion.

And you misguided idiots interpret THAT as 'whining about being overworked and underpaid.' You are much more comfortable with your ignorant sniping from the sidelines.

But carry on - whatever floats you boat or makes you feel better about yourselves.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45561 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:29 am to
I agree. Teachers are the worst.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
AL
Member since Apr 2010
27652 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:30 am to
It turns out everyone thinks they are overworked and underpaid. I have never seen a profession that didn't have people saying this.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49813 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:31 am to
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I always see people complaining about retail workers complaining. I never actually see any retail workers complaining.




Amazing isn't it? - just like with the anti-teacher screeds
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49813 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:36 am to
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It turns out everyone thinks they are overworked and underpaid. I have never seen a profession that didn't have people saying this.

That is true - I have been in three professions and it was all pretty much the same.

But the screed is that teachers go around whining about it. Now is it something they discuss amongst themselves? - of course - just like other shop-talk, 'my problems are worse than your problems' one-upmanships that occur everywhere people have casual conversations.

I daresay any teacher who talks about their 'plight' outsider their own workspace is doing so in response to some ignorant public allegation about them.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
15104 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:37 am to
People complaining about others complaining about there jobs are closing in on nurses and teachers.
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:39 am to
What annoys me more are the businesses that want to make a big deal of closing on Thanksgiving, like they should win the next peace prize. I went to REI's website and the whole computer screen was taken up by their proclamation that they would take the day off and be such grand and glorious employers and such. Forget the fact that I wanted to buy something at that moment, that was secondary I guess.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:48 am to
The CEO did an AMA on Reddit to promote the fact that they aren't going to be open on Black Friday and that they are good to their employees. Over half the questions were from employees calling out different company policies and exposed the CEOs hypocrisy.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99043 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:49 am to
I agree, the only profession that whines more than teachers are engineers
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46979 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:49 am to
I´m working on thanksgiving. I wouldn´t be mad about that if I wasn´t also stuck working Christmas and New Year´s somehow.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39265 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:53 am to
I think prostitutes may have a point when it comes to work conditions.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99043 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:54 am to
I'm good to my hookers
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46979 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:55 am to
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I think prostitutes may have a point when it comes to work conditions.
then they just need to choose better marks
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39265 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:55 am to
You find a good one you treat them right. Their other clients, not so much.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:56 am to
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If you don't want to work Thanksgiving/Black Friday, don't get a job in retail.


oh just go to the job tree and pick whatever you want to do.


fricking idiot
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:00 am to
If it helps I'm off Thanksgiving and the day after and the weekend and I'm paid for those two weekdays lol. However I picked a job as a sales rep. But my dad is an executive chef so we have work around that. It's part of life.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135044 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:00 am to
shite, thanksgiving itself is work.
Hell of a lot of prepping, cooking and cleaning
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:03 am to
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You think those same people have the luxury of picking and choosing whatever job they want?


Sounds like a personal problem. Don't be 30+ years old and working at Wal-Mart. Problem solved.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:05 am to
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Don't be 30+ years old and working at Wal-Mart. Problem solved.
oh it's so easy.

my god you people don't even live in the real world
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:09 am to
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oh it's so easy.


It is actually

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my god you people don't even live in the real world


I do. I made adult decisions and choices that didn't involve having kids at a young age but did involve bettering myself and my financial situation through education.

If you are working a retail, fast food, or a minimum wage job as your main source of income and you're over the age of 30, you fricked up somewhere.

I don't want to work shift work, I don't want to work nights, I don't want to work holidays and I don't want to work weekends. So I made choices in life that afforded me those things. It wasn't difficult to do.
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