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re: The statues taken down in NOLA, did it make a difference?

Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:34 pm to
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Not pretending it’s related but it’ll surely bug the OP



What are you talking about? That doesn't bug me at all.

Information like that is why I started the thread in the first place.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:34 pm to
Or it means criminals are becoming more tolerant. Try to be glass half full.
Posted by HooDooWitch
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:34 pm to
No it did not help Mitch in his attempt to become a viable candidate for president
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:38 pm to
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Can’t wait till the day he gets indicted.


I can’t believe how quickly the scandal of how he paid for the removals with complete disregard of bid laws and other things got swept under the rug.
Posted by AlceeFortier
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:40 pm to
oh yes, less places for pigeons to crap
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:41 pm to
Cool subject
LOL
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:42 pm to
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Cool subject
LOL



Okay

LOL
Posted by TheMidasTouch
Member since Oct 2017
440 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:51 pm to
Overall shootings about the same. Not up. Non-fatal shootings were up three percent. Fatal shootings were down almost 10 percent
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4939 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:52 pm to
what they replaced them with is so beautiful
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:52 pm to
I think it should be acknowledged that NOLA has seen a rise in property value despite the crime statistics remaining the same or getting worse.

Other cities would love to have that problem.
Posted by TheMidasTouch
Member since Oct 2017
440 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:52 pm to
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And was drastically down the last half of the year after a rough start. You know, directly after taking them down.

This is true as well. After the first several months, New Orleans was on pace to easily surpass the murders from 2016. They ended up with a decrease of 10 percent- 157

Compare that with 274 just two years before Katrina.
This post was edited on 1/1/18 at 9:00 pm
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:55 pm to
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I vote that in 2018, we give NOLA a break. New mayor is going to make some changes for the better. Can at least give her a chance.






She'll be under investigation in 6 months.:
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:59 pm to
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And was drastically down the last half of the year after a rough start. You know, directly after taking them down.



So, according to your post, taking down statues made people murder each other less? Is that what you mean?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61349 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

This is true as well. After the first several months, New Orleans was on pace to easily surpass the murders from 2016. They ended up with a decrease of 10 percent- 157

Compare that with 274 just two years before Katrina.


So you're saying that the removal of the statues made people murder less?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35116 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 9:00 pm to
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Overall shootings about the same
quote:

Not up

Well, if they are about the same, that means that one year has more shootings than the Other.

And if they are about the same, calling 10% fewer fatalities from "about the same amount of shootings" a victory is just dishonest.

It isn't a victory. It was luck.

Gun violence didn't go down. It "stayed about the same" which is still astronomical. The 10% fewer gun deaths talking point is nothing but a pat on the back for something that luck decided.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 9:02 pm to
Statues make good cover during a shooting. The concrete and metal with stop a bullet.

Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
3918 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 9:03 pm to
Yep crime is even worse. So now they can blame it on something else. And everyone will forget that it was suppose to be the statues that were creating the crime.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 9:04 pm to
You do understand that statues are in no way correlated to crime right?
Posted by TheMidasTouch
Member since Oct 2017
440 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

So you're saying that the removal of the statues made people murder less?

No. I am saying the murder rate has gone way way down over the past 15 years.

2002-258
2003-274
2004-264
2007-209
2008-179
2009-174
2010-175
2011-200
2012-193
2013-156
2014-150
2015-164
2016-174
2017-157
This post was edited on 1/1/18 at 9:07 pm
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26642 posts
Posted on 1/1/18 at 9:09 pm to
Boom. Numbers don’t lie.
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