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re: The south has the highest rates of student loan delinquency

Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:06 am to
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:06 am to
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All this map tells me is that communist states like California and Illinois benefitted the most from student loans being wiped clean. NO WAY the commies in those two states are prioritizing their student loan payments. Bunch of freeloaders got their loans taken care of the last few years.



Better explanation: There are more high paying jobs in those places, and people can afford to pay back their loans.

California communist? It is the 5th largest economy in the world, and it is a net contributor to federal tax revenue. Many states in the south are net receivers of federal revenue, making them ....

wait for it ....

freeloaders.

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58288 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:07 am to
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we had a post on this topic earlier..... SEC vs SWAC, SWAC on average had 3x the delinquency rates

Previous post

SWAC had between 9.0% and 26.6% Delinquency rates for their 11 schools. with a school % average of 19.2%

SEC Schools ranged from 1% to 8.5% (thanks Mississippi schools) with an school % average of 3.9%

So SWAC is about 5x higher with delinquencies vs SEC. Things are much worse when you look at For-profit schools......
Do you remember the Xavier opics from over a decade ago where Afreaux quoted states from Xavier of Ohio by mistake. it was a classic. Too bad it is gone.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:08 am to
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Not at the moment, I appreciate your consistency



The problem is that his perception of who is freeloading and who is not is completely backwards.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9030 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:13 am to
Here's an interesting breakdown from 2000s to 2017:

Public 4 Year University = 17.4%
Private Non-Profit 4 Year University = 17.6%
Public 2 Year = 25.8%
For Profit Colleges = 52.5%

Talk about straight up robbery.

https://www.bestcolleges.com/research/student-loan-default-rate-facts-statistics/

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31540 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:30 am to
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I just enjoy getting any and all libs worked up. It's really not a challenge at all.

Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
6521 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:31 am to
Cool meme
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31540 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:54 am to
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Cool meme

Thanks bro
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24751 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 12:00 pm to
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have about 20 more years of payments.

How much debt did you take on? Are you at least a doctor or lawyer? Was it worth it (salary you make now vs amount of debt)?
Posted by Oneforthemoney
New Iberia, La
Member since Dec 2013
2407 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 12:20 pm to
Well, the south has the highest number of blacks in country soooo
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1155 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 12:34 pm to
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I was intimately involved in both processing PPP and filing ERC credits, I can assure you there was no oversight and everyone was taking them, whether they needed them or not. I don’t blame them, why not take free money, but you’re either full of shite or an idiot if you think either program wasn’t absolutely abused


I see your reading comprehension was about as good as the PPP loan oversight. I did not say it wasn't abused. What I did say was that for every abuser, there were many more businesses that were kept afloat, and this happened because of a government shutdown that went on far too long and was enforced in many parts of the country too aggressively against small business.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82707 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 12:36 pm to
When I was in college, I had several peers who had full TOPS and took out the maximum offered student loans just to pay for like.. apartment, food, living, etc. And they used all of it since it was there, versus being frugal to ideally have some leftover for repayment.

Nights out, takeout every meal, etc.

Several friends with living expense student loans were the ones running their Tiger Card at the dining hall for the rest of us for days at the end of semester just because they had so many dining hall swipes left due to never using it.

A few have told me how much they regret this now that they realize the repercussions of having done that :/ Things like this are why I'm grateful I had very financially knowledgeable parents who forbade me from getting loans.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36713 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 12:36 pm to
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What I did say was that for every abuser, there were many more businesses that were kept afloat


I’m pretty confident that’s bullshite, especially on the ERC side
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5806 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 12:43 pm to
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How is La. on that list when they have TOPS?


lol, like TOPS negates student loans.

Hint: It should, but people are stupid with money.
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3795 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:02 pm to
Nice map. Now do demographics
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
4053 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:12 pm to
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Our findings reflect how the impact of systemic racism—including chronic underfunding of HBCUs—diminishes the value of a college degree for Black students, and subsequently, the potential for students to improve their economic mobility.”


From the article…. Never are people responsible for their own actions…. It is always “racism”….. all so tiring.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50807 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:17 pm to
Now, break it down by ethnicity.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9030 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:41 pm to
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Now, break it down by ethnicity.


The worst 7 states:

1. Mississippi 44% (55% White, 36% Black)
2. West Virginia 34.4% (90% White, 3% Black)
3. Alabama 34.3%. (63% White, 26% Black)
4. Kentucky 34.3%. (81% White, 8% Black)
5. Oklahoma 34.2% (60% White, 7% Black)
6. Arkansas 34.2% (63% White, 14% Black
7. Louisiana 32% (56% White, 31% Black

Not sure I’m seeing the racial connection quite as clearly as the widespread poverty and poorer state public education one.

Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19094 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 2:11 pm to
Now hang on a minute

“While specific default rates for individual institutions are not always publicly available, some colleges in these states have been noted for high student loan debt among graduates”:

Jackson State University (Mississippi): Graduates had an average debt of $32,274, with 88% of students graduating with debt.
Sun Herald
Alcorn State University (Mississippi): Graduates had an average debt of $28,744, with 83% of students graduating with debt.
Grambling State University (Louisiana): A 2016 study found that Grambling students carried the second-highest average debt load in the nation, at $51,887, with a default rate of 16%.

There is a pattern
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44108 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 2:14 pm to
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Our findings reflect how the impact of systemic racism—including chronic underfunding of HBCUs


Ironically it was Obama that chose not to renew the $85 million funding program for HBCUs established by President Bush.

But HBCU's students get lots of grants. Bluefield State University in West Virginia is a HBCU, that has a majority white enrollment. The school has football team, basketball team, band, and then the rest of the student body is white. In 2013 white enrollment exceeded 90%, enrollment is 1300-1500 students. West Virginia is a poor white state and those student are attending on HBCU income grants.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27402 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 2:20 pm to
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That’s probably part of the problem. TOPS has low standards, so people who shouldn’t go to a university are


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