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The real problem with cold cases
Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:14 am
Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:14 am
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Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:16 am to ExtraGravy
Did they give a reason?
Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:16 am to ExtraGravy
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The homicide clearance rate in this country used to be 90% in this country back in the 1960s.
So many wrongful convictions...
Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:17 am to ExtraGravy
When it’s culcha on culcha, nobody really cares about it.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:31 am to ExtraGravy
What's a cold case ?
After 48 hours like the show ? 3 - 6 months ?
After 48 hours like the show ? 3 - 6 months ?
Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:59 am to ExtraGravy
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In New Orleans, the clearance rate is half that- under 30%.
Don’t know if it’s still the case, but a big problem in NOLA years ago was that the DA didn’t pursue many murder cases. They just allowed them to walk.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:59 am to The Torch
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What's a cold case ?
After 48 hours like the show ? 3 - 6 months ?
I would define a cold case as one that is no longer being actively investigated and would need some change (new tech, someone coming forward with new evidence, etc) to re-examine.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 10:21 am to Joshjrn
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The homicide clearance rate in this country used to be 90% in this country back in the 1960s.
So many wrongful convictions...
That's pretty much all that that tells me as well.
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 11:51 am
Posted on 8/18/19 at 10:22 am to Joshjrn
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I would define a cold case as one that is no longer being actively investigated
Don't they still get investigated by a cold case unit?
Posted on 8/18/19 at 10:33 am to Funky Tide 8
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Don't they still get investigated by a cold case unit?
Sometimes in larger cities, but even that is different. In spite of what you see on TV, a “cold case unit” is mostly people behind desks running dragnet searches through databases and to act as the point to direct people who call with “new” information. It’s not what I would call “active” investigation.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 10:33 am to Gray12
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When it’s culcha on culcha, nobody really cares about it.
Culcha cares, but culcha don’t talk to cops.
Cops used to care, but it’s hard to pursue a case when an entire neighborhood witnesses a shooting, but no one saw anything.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 10:34 am to TheHarahanian
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Don’t know if it’s still the case, but a big problem in NOLA years ago was that the DA didn’t pursue many murder cases. They just allowed them to walk.
If you don’t have enough evidence...
Posted on 8/18/19 at 10:55 am to Ghost of Colby
"Why won't you pigs solve this murdah?"
"No problem. First of all, what did you see when..."
"Lemme just stop you right there. I didn't see nothing."
"No problem. First of all, what did you see when..."
"Lemme just stop you right there. I didn't see nothing."
Posted on 8/18/19 at 10:57 am to Funky Tide 8
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That's pretty all that that tells me as well.
It's that but also that the war on drugs has increased the amount of stranger on stranger violence IMO.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 11:10 am to EarlyCuyler3
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It's that but also that the war on drugs has increased the amount of stranger on stranger violence IMO.
So we can all get behind ending this horrible failed experiment that is the War on Drugs, right?
Posted on 8/18/19 at 11:11 am to ExtraGravy
I also believe a lot of cases are inaccurately labeled/ruled suicide.
I’m not saying a huge percentage, but I am saying overall still quite a bit.
I’m not saying a huge percentage, but I am saying overall still quite a bit.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 11:14 am to Joshjrn
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o we can all get behind ending this horrible failed experiment that is the War on Drugs, right?
Not so long as people still believe it's the government's job to tell you what you can or can't put in your body.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 11:29 am to ExtraGravy
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In New Orleans, the clearance rate is half that- under 30%.
You know the old saying, snitches get beat up.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 11:34 am to ExtraGravy
Depends on the situation.
I’m sure a number of cold cases in Baton Rouge and New Orleans are drug related and/or gang related.
If there are no witnesses, or at least no cooperating ones, your chances of turning up the murderer are slim unless ballistics comes back on a weapon that turned up elsewhere.
When probably 70% of the murders in the city are all in NBR and no one wants to say anything, it tanks your clear rate.
Unfortunately, having a warzone like that nearby also makes it easier for other killers to operate, as BR had a minimum of two, if not more, active serial killers at one point between Lee and Gillis. Busting each made it easier to go back and either clear a bunch of cases or attribute the deaths as likely being connected.
I’m sure a number of cold cases in Baton Rouge and New Orleans are drug related and/or gang related.
If there are no witnesses, or at least no cooperating ones, your chances of turning up the murderer are slim unless ballistics comes back on a weapon that turned up elsewhere.
When probably 70% of the murders in the city are all in NBR and no one wants to say anything, it tanks your clear rate.
Unfortunately, having a warzone like that nearby also makes it easier for other killers to operate, as BR had a minimum of two, if not more, active serial killers at one point between Lee and Gillis. Busting each made it easier to go back and either clear a bunch of cases or attribute the deaths as likely being connected.
Posted on 8/18/19 at 11:37 am to ExtraGravy
I knew a guy that was a homicide detective and he told me the same thing. Basically, if they solved a murder, it's because someone talked or the guy who did the murdering did something stupid. One he told me about was a carjacking/murder where the carjacking was witnessed and the murder victim was found in the car. Only one cell phone connected to every tower between the place and time of the carjacking and the place and time the body was discovered. Care to guess whose phone it was? HINT: He's doing life in Angola.
Other than something like that, he told me the bullshite you see about forensics being magic is just that. If there's nothing for the detectives to begin an investigation with, some connection between the victim and murderer or some piece of glaring evidence the murderer left behind, there's a very good chance the murderer's never going to see justice.
Other than something like that, he told me the bullshite you see about forensics being magic is just that. If there's nothing for the detectives to begin an investigation with, some connection between the victim and murderer or some piece of glaring evidence the murderer left behind, there's a very good chance the murderer's never going to see justice.
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 11:40 am
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