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re: The Psychological Effects From A Masked Up Society

Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:48 am to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:48 am to
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For the love of God it’s a fricking mask.


Maybe people don't enjoy being forced to participate in pointless appeals to emotion?

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101399 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:51 am to
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Is something sucks the same as being harmful?



Maybe?

I think I completely agree with everything you posted. I don't like the idea of "experimenting" with my kids to the point of forcing them to do something completely outside the bounds of typical human society.

Will they be horribly psychologically scarred for life for having to wear masks for going on two years straight, and however fricking much longer it may be? I certainly don't think so, but also haven't seen anything to indicate the current virological risks outweigh even the slightest of such concern.

I've also noticed some subtle changes in how they interact that I don't find particularly comforting.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:52 am to
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The way so many seem to have gleefully embraced this pointless insanity is the most perplexing thing in the world.
You're perplexed by sheople acting like sheople? Really?
Posted by Grasshopper
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Dec 2007
950 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:54 am to
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RogerTheShrubber


You just quoted a study from Principal Scientifica. I’m sure they have studies with no bias at all.

The same people that complain about kids needing safe spaces and everyone getting a trophy are now saying a mask is causing permanent psychological damage.

This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 10:56 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:55 am to
It's amazing how people have changed in terms of this shite.

I had a friend from college who was a pretty hard core libertarian like I am.

She is now organizing an email campaign to force Madison County/Huntsville City Schools to enact a mask mandate....indefinitely. As well as one for the entire city. Also indefinitely.

So she and her children will be "safe" from Covid.


Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83576 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:00 am to
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You just quoted a study from Principal Scientifica. I’m sure they have studies with no bias at all.


If you want to attack the study, attack the fact that it was simply an online survey with no verification of symptoms or side effects.

Some of y'all are terrible at debate.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4221 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:02 am to
Look to China for driving this masked up society
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:20 am to
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It's amazing how people have changed in terms of this shite.

I had a friend from college who was a pretty hard core libertarian like I am.

She is now organizing an email campaign to force Madison County/Huntsville City Schools to enact a mask mandate....indefinitely. As well as one for the entire city. Also indefinitely.

So she and her children will be "safe" from Covid.

It's circumstances like these that really shine a light on the direction in which this country is headed.

And it ain't good.

ETA: But that's both the sad and the scary part. For the most part these are good-hearted folks who really believe they're doing the right thing. That's what TPTB count on. That's why we're bombarded 24/7 with propaganda, to sway good people into doing their dirtywork for them. Because without those easily herded individuals their nefarious agendas could not be carried out.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 11:26 am
Posted by Dr Lecter
Baltimore, MD
Member since Oct 2012
1263 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:25 am to
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They already know not to be scared of the virus. They already know that the vaccine is really just something to make it less severe / better on old people, sick people (pre-existing cond.) and people who refuse to take care of themselves.

They know this is all a big charade.



They’re the future people screaming for Brawndo to be used on crops
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19358 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:41 am to
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They’re the future people screaming for Brawndo to be used on crops


Time will tell. One of our positions will not age well. I’m comfortable with my decision and how I’ve instructed my kids to approach it. If I am wrong then the consequences are mine to own. Especially since children are at no risk

If you are already chronically ill, you should take it if you feel you need it.

If you are 50+ years old, you should take it if you feel you need it.

If you are at a BMI above 30, you should take it if you feel you need it.

The thing works to lessen symptoms, of that I have no doubt. Forcing anyone to take it or wear an ineffective mask is where I direct my ire.

ETA I may have misinterpreted your post, as it looked to me you were framing my kids as the retards from Idiocracy. If not apologies. The statement is still true however
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 11:46 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66797 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:43 am to
I’ve asked this question and presented these stats multiple times in this thread, but i doubt reading comprehension is one of your strong suits considering your risk mitigation beliefs.

Where is the evidence or data that masking children 0-17 is an effective safety measure at stopping the transmission of COVID19?

If this was a truly effective safety measure at stopping transmission of communicable diseases for children, why have we never masked our children for far dangerous communicable diseases to them, such as influenza and RSV?

Have you visited the CDCs website and looked tat the COVID19 fatalities by age range? There are nearly 80 million children in the US ages 0-17. The CDC shows 410 related COVID19 deaths of that age range. 0.0% and the majority of those 410 had life threatening child illnesses as is. Awful, but reality.

Last question, based on that data. Your next counter, is probably to say something like, “this is for the collective good of society”, in which i will ask - we have had readily available, statistically effective and safe, free COVID vaccines for anyone who wants them….why am I masking my child because of those who refuse to get said free, effective, safe vaccine? frick “the collective good of society” if it alters my child’s life negatively in any way.

This isn’t science. It’s silliness not backed by reality.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 11:46 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:39 pm to
It's nothing but appeals to emotion and political virtue signaling.

Always has been, always will be.

And it will work. As it did on my friend from college, who is graduate level educated in STEM, who is now convinced her and her children are all going to die if we don't all wear masks forever.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:45 pm to
Making children.. developing humans wear masks and live in masked societies is making them dumber and that’s a scientific fact. I believe in science. We’re turning our toddlers who are growing up in this world right now into potatoes and frankly it’s not being done on accident.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58885 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:56 pm to
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Making children.. developing humans wear masks and live in masked societies is making them dumber and that’s a scientific fact. I believe in science. We’re turning our toddlers who are growing up in this world right now into potatoes and frankly it’s not being done on accident.




I wholeheartedly agree with you Boat, and I should have put this down from the beginning, but I’d say we’re also getting them to fear actually living life itself. If it’s not masks, it’s something else to get people to fear their fellow man, or potential dangers in life, stay inside and stop living life. The thinking being it’s not worth it, and yet it’s most definitely worth it. It being the only reason to exist in the first place, to live life.


I don’t think it affects just kids. You can see the fear in people at the grocery store when you don’t have a mask on, or you get a little too close to them when passing them on an aisle as you shop. It’s definitely instilled fear into them. Politicians have done this, as has the MSM, perhaps more than anyone.




Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58885 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:57 pm to
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The same people that complain about kids needing safe spaces and everyone getting a trophy are now saying a mask is causing permanent psychological damage.



Yep, I believe every bit of that is ill preparing them for the real world where there are no safe spaces, or participation trophies, and the masks are stunting their social skills that are so desperately in development at that age.

Yes, we are psychologically doing children damage right now. Make no mistake about it.


Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19222 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 2:21 pm to
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Scientific American
quote:

bias


Talking about bias from the "scientific" publication that endorsed and encouraged it's readers to vote for a certain presidential candidate for the first time in it's history? Ok...
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66797 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 2:23 pm to
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I don’t think it affects just kids. You can see the fear in people at the grocery store when you don’t have a mask on, or you get a little too close to them when passing them on an aisle as you shop.


your still overlooking the logical fallacies involved in masking children. Children are more likely to die from hundreds of other reasons, we cannot prevent. Teaching them to live make risk mitigation decisions is one thing, but forcing them to mask over something that has a 0.0% chance of killing them is ridiculous.

quote:

don’t think it affects just kids.


It does effect them, that’s my frustration. It effects their ability to communicate. My young one is an example, in the next year he will begin to talk, form sentences, and communicate with adults. Yet, every adult in his life outside of our house has a mask over their nose and lips preventing him from learning. Stop saying it doesn’t effect them, it does and for what reason?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16492 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 2:25 pm to
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the masks are stunting their social skills that are so desperately in development at that age.


It sucks for the kids who are learning to speak right now. Part of learning to talk is reading other people's lips when they are talking, a lot of young kids are probably going to need speech therapy because of the shitty mask policies
Posted by Wermanium
Member since Apr 2016
754 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 4:30 pm to
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Agreed, but you don't have to make them willing participants in the lie. Mine (7&8) already understand that they do not work, because I have told them so. They understand that the mask is only to please adults who believe it does something that it does not, but they have to follow the rules at school. They already know not to be scared of the virus. They already know that the vaccine is really just something to make it less severe / better on old people, sick people (pre-existing cond.) and people who refuse to take care of themselves. They know this is all a big charade.


Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19358 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 5:06 pm to
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Yes, we are psychologically doing children damage right now. Make no mistake about it.


Unless you take the time and put forth the effort to help them understand the situation.

Effort and giving a shite is 85% of parenting
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