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Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:13 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
bullshite!!!! Is it more challenging..sure. Do you have to temper expectations….sure. But it is still doable.
My son was 21 and making $18 an hour as a plumbers helper. Bought a house in Blanchard, La which is small town just north of Shreveport.
3/1 1200sf on pier and beam built in 1958 on half acre lot. Good bones but needed some TLC. Not in greatest area but definitely not an area where you would be scared to sit in front porch at night.
Bought it with a Zero down Rural Development Loan. Even at 6.5% interest his note is only a little over $500 month. He spent $6000 over last two years fixing it up a little at a time and did all the work himself ( and some help from his pops). Fresh paint, all new fixtures, new kitchen countertops, Totally gutted and redone bathroom, sanded and restrained original hardwood floors. House is very charming now and a great starter home.
He is now a licensed journeyman plumber making $26 hour and just married a girl that is just steering her career as a dental hygienist. They now make somewhere between $120 and $130k a year depending on his overtime and side jobs. They plan on living in this house until there first child is ready to start school, then they will move to an area with a good school district. Even if she got pregnant today that puts them on a 5 year plan. With only a $500 house note he will have tons of extra money each year to save or invest. He is actually planning on using the extra money and his currently low debt to income ratio to invest in either homes to flip or turn into rental property.
It’s doable. Just have to be willing to do it.
My son was 21 and making $18 an hour as a plumbers helper. Bought a house in Blanchard, La which is small town just north of Shreveport.
3/1 1200sf on pier and beam built in 1958 on half acre lot. Good bones but needed some TLC. Not in greatest area but definitely not an area where you would be scared to sit in front porch at night.
Bought it with a Zero down Rural Development Loan. Even at 6.5% interest his note is only a little over $500 month. He spent $6000 over last two years fixing it up a little at a time and did all the work himself ( and some help from his pops). Fresh paint, all new fixtures, new kitchen countertops, Totally gutted and redone bathroom, sanded and restrained original hardwood floors. House is very charming now and a great starter home.
He is now a licensed journeyman plumber making $26 hour and just married a girl that is just steering her career as a dental hygienist. They now make somewhere between $120 and $130k a year depending on his overtime and side jobs. They plan on living in this house until there first child is ready to start school, then they will move to an area with a good school district. Even if she got pregnant today that puts them on a 5 year plan. With only a $500 house note he will have tons of extra money each year to save or invest. He is actually planning on using the extra money and his currently low debt to income ratio to invest in either homes to flip or turn into rental property.
It’s doable. Just have to be willing to do it.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:14 pm to Mushroom1968
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Early 2014 we didn’t have internet
I got my first smartphone in 2014, post-college, as a necessity for my first job.
2023 is a completely different world in terms of technology though, and internet access via whatever is a necessity for anyone who’s employed, is looking for employment, or does more than go to the grocery once a week.
Also, if you have kids but no internet today, you’re putting them at a major disadvantage to their peers.
So no, cutting internet is no longer a viable solution to save money towards a down payment for a home in 2023.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:14 pm to Mushroom1968
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The truth is y’all are worried about us “old school out of touch” folks, I’m not even a boomer. I was just raised poor. We are “out of touch” but somehow were able to live without the finer things in our 20s, people now just refuse to. I do agree in Louisiana insurance is a bitch though and currently buying a house is difficult. It’s been difficult many times over the last century, it sucks, but if you want one, sometimes you have to give up nicer things to have it. If you need internet, fresh coffee at coffee shop everyday, Netflix, Amazon, nice ride, then owning a home isn’t gonna work for someone who is 24, or 30, or 50
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:17 pm to Mushroom1968
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If you didn’t have a smart phone or home internet would you lose your job or die?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:18 pm to yaboidarrell
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A big issue is foreign entities and corporations buying these overpriced houses as investment properties. Drive around any neighborhood in the Austin area and you'll see multiple single-family homes with For Rent signs.
Our perfect and wonderful market forces are about to correct and it will be great for everyone*
*billionaires
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:18 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I hate how some of try to portray this type of attitude as a virtue. Again, if your message is be cognizant of your spending and cut where you can, I get it, and it's something that everyone should take to heart. But you're not a saint because you're going without internet. You're kind of a dumbass.
Didn’t say don’t have internet. Most have that option at work, or just have a cell phone with internet, or just have internet with cable. Nowadays young people expect to have all 3. It you have to pay for it, it’s not a virtue, it’s the truth. Keep all the internet but don’t bitch about not being able to pay rent or a house
I have internet now, Netflix, Hulu, I’m not saying I don’t have it
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:19 pm to ansertiger
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So no, cutting internet is no longer a viable solution to save money towards a down payment for a home in 2023.
Ok, well if internet is free, then you’re right.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:20 pm to Kingshakabooboo
quote:Im having a hard time thinking a state licensed tradesman can only make $26/hr. That's what helper apprentices make
He is now a licensed journeyman plumber making $26 hour
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:20 pm to Mushroom1968
I mean, I love bashing on entitled and spoiled little fricks as much as the next guy but you pretty much can't exist without 24/7 internet these days.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:21 pm to Mushroom1968
quote:we know you have it, you wouldn't be able to Boomer up this thread so well if you hadn't had it
I have internet now, Netflix, Hulu, I’m not saying I don’t have it
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:22 pm to Scuttle But
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mean, I love bashing on entitled and spoiled little fricks as much as the next guy but you pretty much can't exist without 24/7 internet these days.
So if you dropped your smart phone and home internet you’d die?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:26 pm to Mushroom1968
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So if you dropped your smart phone and home internet you’d die
Lol dude, the smart phone is by far the most important possession 99% of Americans own. You're whole life is on there. All you're contacts, banking, ID and insurance. No I wouldn't die but functioning as a normal productive adult would be near impossible.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:30 pm to Mushroom1968
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Most have that option at work, or just have a cell phone with internet, or just have internet with cable. Nowadays young people expect to have all 3. It you have to pay for it, it’s not a virtue, it’s the truth. Keep all the internet but don’t bitch about not being able to pay rent or a house
My God. Such a boomer, and you're only a few years older than me. This is ridiculous. It's like you don't even understand what you're talking about.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:31 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Buying a house to live in and calling it an investment has never been a good idea.
I have to disagree. I’m 50 and in my 4th home. Each of the first three I sold and came out with more equity than what I went in with. Even if I subtracted out the maintenance cost incurred during the time owning each of the houses I still came out ahead. Each time I rolled the increased equity into the next house. Have always paid enough extra each month on house note so that over course of the year, two additional notes were paid straight to principle. My current home will be paid off in about 5 years. I owe roughly $80,000 currently on my mortgage and could sell it today for $380,000. By the time it is paid off will likely be able to sell for about $400k. Once retired we won’t need a 4 bedroom 2400 sf house. Will likely sale and move to a more rural area and get a smaller home for around $200k and have the extra $200k to go towards our retirement.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:31 pm to Mushroom1968
I’m not saying having internet isn’t a big convenience. There are many people whose work doesn’t give them a smart phone who may need it. I promise; 99% of us could go on with our lives without one. It would be less convenient, would suck, but we could do it. I
Right now is an awful time to buy a house, I’ve already said that. My parents rented in the 70s because then it was also a bad time to buy a house. 2-3 years ago was a good time to buy one though
Right now is an awful time to buy a house, I’ve already said that. My parents rented in the 70s because then it was also a bad time to buy a house. 2-3 years ago was a good time to buy one though
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:34 pm to Mo Jeaux
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My God. Such a boomer, and you're only a few years older than me. This is ridiculous. It's like you don't even understand what you're talking about.
If 50 is a boomer then you are correct
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:36 pm to Mushroom1968
It would probably be more expensive to live without a smartphone these days than without one. They're pretty cheap these days. Even Dirt poor eastwards in rural Africa are carrying smart phones these days.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:36 pm to Scuttle But
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Lol dude, the smart phone is by far the most important possession 99% of Americans own. You're whole life is on there. All you're contacts, banking, ID and insurance. No I wouldn't die but functioning as a normal productive adult would be near impossible.
Ok then, keep your smart phone. I mean it’s fine by me. I’m not telling you to get rid of it.
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