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re: The main reason Gov workers are upset about returning to the office

Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:59 am to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101660 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:59 am to
If true, this is considered malfeasance in office and not only kills their current job but likely can have them brought up on charges.


State of LA only allows moonlighting if it is approved in writing and doesn’t conflict with current job duties.

If they are working actual second jobs while on the government dime, that’s potentially jail time and/or clawback of salaries.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7034 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 11:23 am to
this is probably true for some, not all. If this is the truth, then we need to look higher up and evaluate the agency/bureau altogether. If productivity is so low to begin with that it can go unnoticed that an employee isn't working, what is the point of the job, why would we even want them back in an office setting?
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
824 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:05 pm to
Not much new about the multiple-job fed workers except the much greater ease of it given work-from-home. Fifty years ago, I knew a researcher who was fulltime US Geological Survey and halftime at a Cal State university. That would have been OK except that USGS and Cal State both paid him for the same hours. He lost both jobs and had a judgement against him to repay substantial amounts. The university had so many parttime employees that they would have never noticed. It was a USGS supervisor who became suspicious due to excessive "field time" year after year.
Posted by hometownhero89
Center of the Earth
Member since Aug 2007
1799 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:10 pm to
If this is true, then their pay should be considered a government “payday” loan and they should pay interest back to the American people they defrauded.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
53015 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:14 pm to
lol my brother works for the feds and he does not need to have a second job

These Avon selling postal workers need to step up their game
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
11833 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:44 pm to
The question will be if they were conducting both jobs while on the government’s clock. That is likely happening and means they were cheating the system.

If not, then going back to the office full time should not be a problem. If it is, that means that their secondary employment was not being done on their own time or the removed commute allowed some flexibility.

Either way, get in the office and do your job. Otherwise quit and use your second job as your primary income.
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
1316 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:54 pm to
But they’re not “working” two jobs, they’re simply getting PAID for two jobs. Doing the second job when you’re supposed to be doing the first.
Posted by AgCoug
Houston
Member since Jan 2014
6230 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:17 pm to
A four page thread because some random person made an unverified claim on X and the majority thinks it’s true.
Clown world.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
15877 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
7049 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:12 pm to
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 ask this with all sincerity- How the frick would one be able to tell what hours someone worked from looking a a W2 ??


I said if they have multiple w2s it would he easy to back check with the employer what kind of job it was.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
8506 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:15 pm to
Bud this dual job approach is not a new thing. 30 years ago I had two employees that were doing a side gig consulting. What employees do after hours should generally be their thing to manage. But these two were getting environmental lab costs for their side gigs and having it charged to there main company . Thats theft
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
34568 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

A four page thread because some random person made an unverified claim on X and the majority thinks it’s true.
Clown world.


There are really good public employees and really bad public employees. Same as in private employment.

Problem is that the current people in charge have no real plans to innovate or make things better. So instead, they’ve gone all in on tired old McCarthyism. Whatever narrative works to vilify people will work for them. Group doesn’t work hard enough. Group works too hard. It doesn’t matter as long as it creates someone to blame for people’s problems.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117311 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:56 pm to
Does it really matter if they sit in the office and do nothing or at home and do nothing?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17757 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

military member,


You mean Reserve members, that's not allowed for AC.

quote:

federal employees can have two jobs.


As long as it's completely outside of their federal schedule, which is extremely rare. These people were punching in 8 hours a day into ATAAPS while working another job on those hours. That's illegal and if found these people will have to forfeit that federal pay.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17757 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

Does it really matter if they sit in the office and do nothing or at home and do nothing?


All the more reason they should be fired.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
1927 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

Because they’re working a second job during fed business hours while at home. They’re not submitting a form for that. I’m sure some did it the correct way but most did not. Now they become fireable.


Time card fraud may lead to a criminal charge. It's basically theft.
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
1630 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 8:06 pm to
The hate towards public employees will never make sense to me. There are plenty of federal employees that love and support this country in and out of uniform.

Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
3525 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

We all know they weren't putting in an honest eight hours with the fed government gig


Hell, they don't put in an honest 8 hours when they ARE in the office in person.
Why would anyone think they have been for 5 years while sitting at home.
Time for a housecleaning.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
65904 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:33 pm to
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They all had a sweet passive income gig

All of em?
Posted by Will Munny
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
3101 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

A four page thread because some random person made an unverified claim on X and the majority thinks it’s true. Clown world.


The OT: these federal workers are so lazy

Also the OT: they’re working 2 jobs

This whole thing sounds so made up and ridiculous, how has this thread been on the front page so long

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