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The intrusion of whites into bilingual schools

Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:41 am
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:41 am
LINK

It’s long and not worth the read, but you get the idea.
Posted by spaceranger
Member since Jan 2017
1627 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:43 am to
quote:

It’s long and not worth the read


but worth a post about it? with no quotes
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42716 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:49 am to
Read the comments. Even posters on The Atlantic are getting tired of identity politics.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:54 am to
There’s nothing worthwhile in the article. The title says it all. And like the other guy said, the comments are worth a skim through.
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19221 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:55 am to
Let me help

quote:

But—and here’s the rub—if a two-way dual-immersion program helps generate middle-class interest in multilingualism, that dynamic could also undermine the program’s design and effectiveness. What happens when rising demand from privileged families starts pushing English learners out of these programs?...

“Opportunity hoarding [is] happening everywhere,” ... She was referring to a phenomenon in which wealthy families wield their influence to secure access to educational resources in ways that crowd out traditionally underserved families... When a two-way dual-immersion program gentrifies into a one-way program, Mykytyn said, “we’re not talking about integration, we’re talking about what other special programs your white kid can get, your privileged kid can get.”

In other words, if integrated, two-way dual-immersion programs make multilingualism more appealing to English-speaking families, they can also shift these programs’ focus away from educational equity for English learners. Left unchecked, demand from privileged, English-dominant families can push ELs and their families out of multilingual schools and convert two-way dual-immersion programs into one-way programs that exclusively serve English-speaking children. In some places, this ultimately results in a system in which English-dominant students get access to Spanish-English dual-immersion programs, while native Spanish-speaking students are consigned to English-only programs.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26690 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:56 am to
quote:

but worth a post about it?

Hai guys! Here's a crappy article I found.

Don't read it.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:01 am to
quote:

But—and here’s the rub—if a two-way dual-immersion program helps generate middle-class interest in multilingualism, that dynamic could also undermine the program’s design and effectiveness. What happens when rising demand from privileged families starts pushing English learners out of these programs?...

“Opportunity hoarding [is] happening everywhere,” ... She was referring to a phenomenon in which wealthy families wield their influence to secure access to educational resources in ways that crowd out traditionally underserved families... When a two-way dual-immersion program gentrifies into a one-way program, Mykytyn said, “we’re not talking about integration, we’re talking about what other special programs your white kid can get, your privileged kid can get.”

In other words, if integrated, two-way dual-immersion programs make multilingualism more appealing to English-speaking families, they can also shift these programs’ focus away from educational equity for English learners. Left unchecked, demand from privileged, English-dominant families can push ELs and their families out of multilingual schools and convert two-way dual-immersion programs into one-way programs that exclusively serve English-speaking children. In some places, this ultimately results in a system in which English-dominant students get access to Spanish-English dual-immersion programs, while native Spanish-speaking students are consigned to English-only programs.


I feel like I'm living in bizzaro world.

Dual-immersion/language immersion/multi-lingual educations can help students gain a really marketable skill once they enter the job market as adults.

The author agrees with this it seems...but the author also thinks that white families shouldn't let their kids do it because it would be unfair to non-whites?

Wtf?
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 10:02 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64617 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:03 am to
You must embrace diversity, but don't embrace it too much. That's racist.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9504 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:04 am to
Ah, Liberal filth rhetoric

“White People aren’t doing enough for us”

Moments later

“White People are interfering in our lives too much”

Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30557 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:05 am to
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bilingual


But English is one of the languages taught hmmmmm
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:05 am to
Also don’t forget that said liberal is usually white too.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Read the comments. Even posters on The Atlantic are getting tired of identity politics.


Indeed. The comments are good.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61883 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:09 am to
So much for that whole melting pot thingy. Why not discuss the intrusion of bilingual people into white schools? Hell, why stop there? What about the intrusion of whites into black schools, or blacks into white schools?

Not about race, but rather bilingual versus monolingual? Then why bring race into the equation? For the record, this is why racism continues, because America is so very obsessed with it on both sides of the aisle and in everything we discuss and do. It’s very unhealthy.

Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18704 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:09 am to
White person: "We speak American here, I don't want to hear no gotdang Spanish in my country!"
Leftists: "Backwards bigots!"

Later,
White person: "I'm going to enroll my child into a bilingual school because it will improve his education and allow him to communicate with a more diverse range of people"
Leftists: "Privileged bigots!"
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28653 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:10 am to
White racism flow chart.
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 10:12 am
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9504 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:15 am to
That’s pretty good
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:15 am to
quote:

I feel like I'm living in bizzaro world.


Same here


quote:

Dual-immersion/language immersion/multi-lingual educations can help students gain a really marketable skill once they enter the job market as adults. The author agrees with this it seems...but the author also thinks that white families shouldn't let their kids do it because it would be unfair to non-whites?


WTF? X's 100
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85585 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:17 am to
There is literally nothing that a liberal won’t bitch about
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24301 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:17 am to
quote:


But English is one of the languages taught hmmmmm
The author feels that if the increase of English speaking students continues, the resources will be shifted from learning English into learning Spanish or another language that isn't widely spoken in the U.S. That would hurt the kids trying to learn English.
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 10:27 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134318 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:21 am to
quote:

You must embrace diversity, but don't embrace it too much. That's racist.


Pretty much
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