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re: The Future of the City Is Childless

Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:05 pm to
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:05 pm to
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Our system incentivizes the least capable amongst us to breed the most and the most capable to have very few children.

I understand how the former works but what about the latter?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:05 pm to
Better than nothing i guess
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:07 pm to
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As we get more and more comfortable and fat and idealistic, we have fewer and fewer kids while at the same time we expand social welfare programs.


Whats going to happen is further class stratification. More education=more money= fewer kids.

Fewer kids means more wealth density, and further wealth inequity.

On the other hand, most people will be getting less education, and less money among more people. The poorer will multiply with less money per person while the richer will narrow with more money per person.

We are going to have a tale of two cities soon.
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
5749 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:08 pm to
People that live in an overpopulated area look around and say, “damn there’s already too many gd people here I think it’ll be ok if I don’t procreate”. That’s my guess?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:08 pm to
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but what about the latter?


The more education you have, the fewer children you are likely have and the more money you make. Class stratification in action.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53814 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

I understand how the former works but what about the latter?

Other than for the very rich it's expensive to have children. For your average accountant and salesguy having 5 kids would be pretty financially straining so they don't. Single mom welfare queen? no problem.
Posted by Sweltering Chill
Member since Aug 2017
2150 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:27 pm to
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Other than for the very rich it's expensive to have children. For your average accountant and salesguy having 5 kids would be pretty financially straining so they don't.



I make an above-average living and am married, no kids.. we live in the city, but that’s irrelevant .. i cant imagine having kids unless i was LOADED.. there are simply too many variables, too many things that can go wrong, from kids being born with disabilities (expensive) to losing our jobs and having trouble making ends meet in a downturn.. i honestly dont see how i’d ever sleep at night worrying about providing for kids, and i’m not paycheck to paycheck, not even close.

Not saying this is how everyone should see things, or that i look down on anyone for having their own basketball team’s worth of kids- it’s just the only way *I’d* feel comfortable .. there are no guarantees, but at least with big $$ you could minimize the variables a lot.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53814 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:32 pm to
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I make an above-average living and am married, no kids.. we live in the city, but that’s irrelevant .. i cant imagine having kids unless i was LOADED.. there are simply too many variables, too many things that can go wrong, from kids being born with disabilities (expensive) to losing our jobs and having trouble making ends meet in a downturn.. i honestly dont see how i’d ever sleep at night worrying about providing for kids, and i’m not paycheck to paycheck, not even close. 

I have kids. Not loaded but solidly at the upper end of the upper middle class. Assuming both parents work, you'll be paying $1000-1500 per month for daycare per child. You'll get no help because you make too much money.

A poor person just has to register another child up for benefits. It's not nearly the financial burden that it would be for a middle class couple.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18900 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:33 pm to
I’m young, have three kids, and live in NYC. These statistics can eat shite!
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
197996 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:35 pm to
plus those lil bastards ruin a vagina


Ive dated some woman that never had kids and that shite it tight

they're batshit crazy... I mean not like normal woman crazy but serail killer crazy

but the sex is legit and they have disposable income
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
82352 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:36 pm to
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the shitty ones are


The worst of the worst (urban secular proggies) aren't. That's a silver lining.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53814 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:37 pm to
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plus those lil bastards ruin a vagina 

That's actually fake news owl. It's pretty elastic. Feels the same a few months afterwards.
Posted by georgia
445
Member since Jan 2007
9228 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:42 pm to
Yeah, we know. They keep bringing their crotch rats and cookie cutter housing compounds to the north shore and fricking up the traffic patterns.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61520 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:43 pm to
Luckily the dad stays the same, right?
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
24340 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:45 pm to

Housing costs are unbelievable for a family-sized place. Schooling costs too. Taxes are higher. Crime. No yard.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

I have kids. Not loaded but solidly at the upper end of the upper middle class. Assuming both parents work, you'll be paying $1000-1500 per month for daycare per child. You'll get no help because you make too much money.


The additional health insurance premiums also
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13879 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:52 pm to
Meanwhile, Westchester county is the most fertile county in the US. Or did people (with money) move to Westchester from Manhattan once they planned to have kids?

New Orleans’s french quarter has also seen a major decline in kids, but the Northshore is quite fertile.
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4124 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:55 pm to
Wonder why people are moving out of the city?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55368 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

The worst of the worst (urban secular proggies) aren't. That's a silver lining.
they would probably make the best parents
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13879 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:10 pm to
When talking about manhattan, I’m sure Harlem/East Harlem has a lot more white young hipsters occupying the apartments instead of black/Hispanic families with multiple kids.
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