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re: The Future of the City Is Childless
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:05 pm to fallguy_1978
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:05 pm to fallguy_1978
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Our system incentivizes the least capable amongst us to breed the most and the most capable to have very few children.
I understand how the former works but what about the latter?
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:05 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Better than nothing i guess
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:07 pm to Norbert
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As we get more and more comfortable and fat and idealistic, we have fewer and fewer kids while at the same time we expand social welfare programs.
Whats going to happen is further class stratification. More education=more money= fewer kids.
Fewer kids means more wealth density, and further wealth inequity.
On the other hand, most people will be getting less education, and less money among more people. The poorer will multiply with less money per person while the richer will narrow with more money per person.
We are going to have a tale of two cities soon.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:08 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
People that live in an overpopulated area look around and say, “damn there’s already too many gd people here I think it’ll be ok if I don’t procreate”. That’s my guess?
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:08 pm to cwil177
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but what about the latter?
The more education you have, the fewer children you are likely have and the more money you make. Class stratification in action.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:09 pm to cwil177
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I understand how the former works but what about the latter?
Other than for the very rich it's expensive to have children. For your average accountant and salesguy having 5 kids would be pretty financially straining so they don't. Single mom welfare queen? no problem.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:27 pm to fallguy_1978
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Other than for the very rich it's expensive to have children. For your average accountant and salesguy having 5 kids would be pretty financially straining so they don't.
I make an above-average living and am married, no kids.. we live in the city, but that’s irrelevant .. i cant imagine having kids unless i was LOADED.. there are simply too many variables, too many things that can go wrong, from kids being born with disabilities (expensive) to losing our jobs and having trouble making ends meet in a downturn.. i honestly dont see how i’d ever sleep at night worrying about providing for kids, and i’m not paycheck to paycheck, not even close.
Not saying this is how everyone should see things, or that i look down on anyone for having their own basketball team’s worth of kids- it’s just the only way *I’d* feel comfortable .. there are no guarantees, but at least with big $$ you could minimize the variables a lot.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:32 pm to Sweltering Chill
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I make an above-average living and am married, no kids.. we live in the city, but that’s irrelevant .. i cant imagine having kids unless i was LOADED.. there are simply too many variables, too many things that can go wrong, from kids being born with disabilities (expensive) to losing our jobs and having trouble making ends meet in a downturn.. i honestly dont see how i’d ever sleep at night worrying about providing for kids, and i’m not paycheck to paycheck, not even close.
I have kids. Not loaded but solidly at the upper end of the upper middle class. Assuming both parents work, you'll be paying $1000-1500 per month for daycare per child. You'll get no help because you make too much money.
A poor person just has to register another child up for benefits. It's not nearly the financial burden that it would be for a middle class couple.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:33 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I’m young, have three kids, and live in NYC. These statistics can eat shite!
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:35 pm to fallguy_1978
plus those lil bastards ruin a vagina
Ive dated some woman that never had kids and that shite it tight
they're batshit crazy... I mean not like normal woman crazy but serail killer crazy
but the sex is legit and they have disposable income
Ive dated some woman that never had kids and that shite it tight
they're batshit crazy... I mean not like normal woman crazy but serail killer crazy
but the sex is legit and they have disposable income
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:36 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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the shitty ones are
The worst of the worst (urban secular proggies) aren't. That's a silver lining.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:37 pm to OWLFAN86
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plus those lil bastards ruin a vagina
That's actually fake news owl. It's pretty elastic. Feels the same a few months afterwards.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:42 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Yeah, we know. They keep bringing their crotch rats and cookie cutter housing compounds to the north shore and fricking up the traffic patterns.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:43 pm to OWLFAN86
Luckily the dad stays the same, right?
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:45 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Housing costs are unbelievable for a family-sized place. Schooling costs too. Taxes are higher. Crime. No yard.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:49 pm to fallguy_1978
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I have kids. Not loaded but solidly at the upper end of the upper middle class. Assuming both parents work, you'll be paying $1000-1500 per month for daycare per child. You'll get no help because you make too much money.
The additional health insurance premiums also
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:52 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Meanwhile, Westchester county is the most fertile county in the US. Or did people (with money) move to Westchester from Manhattan once they planned to have kids?
New Orleans’s french quarter has also seen a major decline in kids, but the Northshore is quite fertile.
New Orleans’s french quarter has also seen a major decline in kids, but the Northshore is quite fertile.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:55 pm to Ric Flair
Wonder why people are moving out of the city?
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:57 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:they would probably make the best parents
The worst of the worst (urban secular proggies) aren't. That's a silver lining.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:10 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
When talking about manhattan, I’m sure Harlem/East Harlem has a lot more white young hipsters occupying the apartments instead of black/Hispanic families with multiple kids.
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